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CONLANG Digest - 24 Nov 2000

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Sunday, November 26, 2000, 7:23
> From: BP Jonsson <bpj@...> > Subject: Re: rhotics (was: Hellenish oddities) > > I wonder how widespread lgs with more than one "r" phoneme are? Spanish
> famous for its r/rr, Portuguese and Occitan have r/R, but beyond > that? What about people's conlangs? Wanic has a slew of laterals but
> one rhotic.
Modern Atlantic has the regular phoneme <r> /r/ ([r] trill, [4] tap) and the fricative trill <r'> /r_r/ ([r_r], [r_r_j]), the fricative developing from palatalized <r>. All the other Hadwan languages only have the one <r> trill/tap. Daimyo language has one <r>, pronounced like American English <r>.
> From: Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...> > Subject: backwards conlanging > > I've read several conlang sites that suggest starting with an > ancestor-language and then deriving conlangs from the ancestor-conlang.
(...which is something I find quite useful, as I personally find my evolved conlangs to feel smoother than my ex nihilo ones...)
> Does anyone have suggestions for a related-but-faux conlang technique for > same?
The way I slightly understand it, one way to reconstruct a protolang from just one language might be... rrr.. sort of like the idea of 'underlying form'. If, say, an affix has one appearance in some stems, and another in other stems, one might try to reconstruct an "original"/"underlying" form that in your modern language produces two forms due to sound change but in the protolanguage was only one, and perhaps find a way to reverse-engineer that kind of sound change elsewhere. Er. Or not. *Muke! -- "A single human lifetime is far too short a period in which to discover how to live a life." --D. Stephenson Bond