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Re: infix

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Thursday, March 22, 2001, 0:51
>Another type of infixes are like in Tagolog. Now, I don't know Tagolog, >and >I can't think of any examples, so I'll make some up that work like >Tagolog. >> >>tagan=to read >>tagalin=to have read (-li- is the infix) >>taganon=to read (past tense, -no- is the infix) >>taganolin=to have had read (perfect?) > > >You have the general idea. But the infix goes after the initial >consonant: >sulat 'write', s-um-ulat active focus, s-in-ulat patient focus. (I think. >Barry Garcia actually knows Tagalog, but hasn't spoken up yet.) IIRC these >are the only productive infixes nowadays, but apparently in the past Tag. >had -ag- and -al-, generally indicating plural actions.
I dont know Tagalog, i just play someone who does on this list :). Actually, i took a 5 week intensive course in it, but i forget most of it. Although I have grammar books sooo....... The following infixes are in Tagalog verbs: - um - generally focuses on the doer of the action - in - generally the emphasis is on the reciever of the action. Both of these go after consonant initial roots. For words with initial vowels, um goes before, and in goes after Verb conjugations: in: infinitive - basain - to be wet imperative - basain past - binasa present - binabasa future - babasain root : basa - wetness, wet um: infinitive - kumain - to eat imperative - kumain past - kumain present - kumakain future - kakain root: kain - food, eating Nik says:
>Actually, before the first vowel, so that _alis_ (to leave?) becomes >_umalis_, and _gradwet_ (to graduate) becomes _grumadwet_
Actually, the verb is magtapos. A Graduate is gradwado. I suspect though, that if Tagalog had borrowed "graduate" from english, it would be seen as a mag- verb, since sapatos for instance becomes "magsapatos", not "sumapatos" (but take that with a grain of salt, i'm no expert on the language). Um verbs, and mag verbs often share some (but not all) verbs. Some verbs in Tagalog are only um or mag. So, graduate would probably be (in my mind): maggradyuwet


Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>