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Re: An Alphagraphic Language

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Thursday, April 1, 2004, 18:14
At 07:48 30.3.2004 -0800, Gary Shannon wrote:
>BUT (in my experience at least) if a writing system is >not related to sounds in any way, but is strictly >visual, it will also be quite easy to learn. It is >only when it is kinda sorta almost phonetic with a >bazzilion exceptions and irregularities that it is >hard to learn.
You may be right, but no strictly visual writing system is going to suffice with a few dozen signs, so for practical (not least typing/encoding) purposes phonemic writing comes out on top. At 16:00 30.3.2004 -0800, Gary Shannon wrote:
>I thought perhaps inflections would be handled by >various swishes, swashes and do-dads attached to or >appended to the word. "written" might be "write" with >a certain curly flourish following the word, while >"writing" could be the same symbol again, but with a >different inflecting decoration attached to it.
This is actually how shorthand works -- at least the type I use -- since frequently recurring morphemes, which typically are inflection or derivation affixes have their own one-stroke abbreviations or even primitive strokes all their own. Thus the Swedish weak preterite morpheme -de/-te corresponding to English -ed has its own primitive stroke(*) and so do the morphemes corresponding to English -ness, -ing and -er, while the very frequent -tion/-sion ending is abbreviated to an easily identifiable loop that otherwise stands for /sn/. The combinations of plural and definiteness markers also have their distinct strokes, which speeds up writing a lot (tho these particular strokes are interpretable as the unabbreviated form of these morpheme combinations with small loops for /n/ and /r/ omitted. Granted every non-phonemic spelling is a burden on memory, but once integrated it is no burden on speed, which is what shorthand is all about. In terms of paper expense and graphical 'length' my shorthand writing is clearly 'longer' than my 'longhand', but it is a hell of a lot faster to write, and at least no slower to read. (*) Unincidentally the same sign as is used for the suffix -de is also used for the prefix be-, since no confusion can arise. When I write English with "my" Swedish shorthand system this primitive sign comes in handy for the "th" sounds - but this means that I have to write be- 'literally', which actually is a nuisance in "become" and "because", so I write those as "thcome" and "thk" without confusion ("come" having its own modified primitive). /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /Gaestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)

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