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Re: [conculture] Re: The things one finds

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Tuesday, July 27, 1999, 3:27
On Mon, 26 Jul 1999, Nik Taylor wrote:

> Tom Wier wrote: >=20 > > At any rate, I think it would be interesting to investigate what would > > happen to just such a conculture, one which is under the thrall of > > some overwhelmingly dominant foreign influence and is in the last > > stages of social and/or cultural death.=20 >=20 > Or better yet, IMHO, a conculture refusing to assimilate, as in the > later stages of my Kass=ED (which stages I've only looked at briefly).=20 > They were conquered, deported from their homeland, persecuted, and yet > retained their culture. That kind of resistance has always fascinated > me.
Gosh I wish I had peeked into this thread earlier! In the Province of Duneint, Kemr has cultures at both extremes of the assimilation continuum.=20 [A quick geography and cultural lesson: the SE border of Kemr (and also the Province) with Saxland is a mile or so east of the Avon R. that comes out at Bournemouth, follows north to Pewsey then strikes out NE to the head of the Ock R. then NW for about 5 miles to the Avon R., from here it breaks away from the national border and follows that Afon west for about 3 miles then meanders off WWNW to yet another Afon R. (which empties into the Sefern at Martenspont (east of Lydney)). The rest of the border is the Sefern R. out to the Atlantic Sea (encompassing Lundy) and around to the British Sea (encompassing the "Holy Isles", i.e., the Scillies and the Bill of Portland). Many on both sides of the British Sea consider Little Britain as part of the Kingdom of Dumnonia, though the legality of the claim could probably best be described as "tenuous". But one has to fream, eh!? The Province itself is an ancient political unit (Kingdom of Dumnonia), which is divided into four underkingdoms, Kernow in the West, Dunnow in the middle, Dewrow in the SE and Belgeow in the East; which are named for the tribes which anciently lived there, and roughly correspond to the old tribal lands. The political structure is a complicated mess of Celtic, Roman, Medieval and Modern strata where most of the major functionaries bear the title "reys", or king. They're all elected, but most run in families, especially in Kernow, Dunnow and Dewrow. It's something of a backward province concerned mostly with textiles and agriculture in the east and mining elsewhere with fishing and trade all around. Paved roads are rare west of the provincial capital (Esca) and by no means up to Interstate System standards in the east, but railways go most places. Dumnonia was an independant country until the eighth or ninth century, at which time they entered a Union with northern Kemr.=20 This has been a reasonably happy and unshakeable Union; only seriously undermined in 1806 or so when Kemr, Scotland and Kemr's Archenemy England entered their own Act of Union, forming the Federated Kingdom.] In the east of the Province, in Kingdom Belgeow, the dying end of the continuum is met. The native language and culture of this part of the Province are nearly dead. Only a few thousand elderly speakers of Belgeu are left in a couple of out-of-the-way corners of the kingdom. A particularly vigorous variety of Brithenig (Paesan) spread into Duneint starting in the 12th century or so and has become the language of the kingdom by the 16th century. The native culture is also extinct, including peculiar musical instruments, local lore, ceremonial dress and foodways. The Paesan (Brithenig) cultural forms are now considered normal in this region. There has never been a centralised nor strong cultural revival organisation: within 20 years or so, Belgeow will have more in common with the rest of Kemr than it has historically had with Duneint. Most inhabitants think assimilation is a Good Thing, as it means orienting themselves with Kemr and the FK and the Future. More than half don't even know that there _is_ a native language or culture pertaining to the kingdom. The West exhibits precisely the opposite attitude. The average westerner is either resentful or extremely mistrustful of external "control". They fear that Cas Gwent (the National Govt.) will march south and take all their goodies away. They are quite proud that their little corner of the Roman Empire is kept neat and proper, the lingo is kept alive (Legal Latin), are resistant to modernisation (and especially Vulgarisation) of the Church. (Granted that church membership has dwindled over the last century...) On the one hand, they are 100% behind Britain (and have been ever since the 5th century) and have fought with vigour and distinction wherever the Kemrese High King has sent the Armed Forces; they have been at the van of Kemrese explorations and etc. On the other hand, they have a sense of perfect entitlement to settle their own affairs without the assistance of some "For'n Bugger from Up North", and precious few attempts of any class of reform instigated at Cas Gwent have met with success (One I know of were the three separate times that Royal Academy have tried to get Dumnonia to go base 10 in counting. All attempts have been ignored.).= =20 Linguistically, Kernu (the language of the common folk) has been in a kind of limbo since the 11th century or so: the language of Cross and Crown was Latin, while the language of commerce and the wider world and even native literature was Brithenig. Up until the last century, Kernu was regarded as a "poorly devised Brithenig dialect, undoubtedly the product of a poor and backward race." The culture was never in great danger of collapse, but was in grave peril of synthesis with the dominant culture. A cultural revolution of sorts [happily instigated by a philologist :D ] overturned 850 some years of looming dominance from the north, swept away the old ideas of "Kernu dialect", and pushed back the Northern Hegemony. The result is an odd combination of relentless patriotism, etc. with an equally ardent attitude of "Keep off the Grass". The overwhelming majority of inhabitants of Kernow, Dunnow and Dewrow see assimilation as a Dreadfully Bad Thing; they have reluctantly resigned themselves to the Act of Union. Near unanimity is found with respect to participation in the local languages and cultures (including the many immigrant peoples: Gypsies, Spaniards & French, especially); as each of these have have melded nicely with Dumnonian culture. They tend to sadly shake their heads and cluck their collective tongues with respect to Belgeow and the sad state that things are in there; and are bloddy determined not to let it happen here.=20 Padraic.
>=20 > --=20 > "[H]e axed after eggys: And the goode wyf answerde, that she coude not > speke no Frenshe ... And then at last a nother sayd that he woulde haue > hadde eyren: then the goode wyf sayd that she vnderstood hym wel." -- > William Caxton > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Conlang/W.html > http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html > ICQ: 18656696 > AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor >=20