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Re: Thoughts on Prevli

From:Elliott Lash <erelion12@...>
Date:Monday, August 6, 2007, 1:39
 What do you mean by apparent metasthesis? It sounds
very reminiscent of the historical phonology of
Silindion.


So, for pre-Silindion we have  *palan 'rock'
*tho:lon 'river'
This becomes Silindion  <palna>, <sulno>

I'm not yet convinced that this is actually
metasthesis, however. I think that the historical
changes were:

 *palan  > *pal@n > *paln= > paln@ >palna
 *tho:lon > *so:l@n > *so:ln= > so:ln@ > *so:lno >
sulno

So we have both loss of the unstressed vowel then
vowel harmony, changing /@/ into the vowel of the
first syllable.

Another type of faux-metasthesis in Silindion results
in what looks like an infixed /n/.

For example, pre-Silindion had *nakdai 'killed'
(past-participle)
This results in Silindion:  <nankë> (with e-diaresis).
 /naNke/

The sequence of changes was:
 *nakdai > *naknai > *na~knai > *naNknai > *naNkne >
*naNke

 Basically then, there was a change of /d/ to /n/ ,
which then provoked nasalisation in the syllable that
proceeded it.

-Elliott

--- Roger Mills <rfmilly@...> wrote:

> This is to be the third (so far) language family on > Cindu, spoken by some > strange non-Kash (but "great-cat" descended) > aborigines (the Lañ-Lañ) who > live in the mountains. The analogue might be > Neanderthal (or even earlier) > survivors. > > It's going to be like Indonesian Leti and > relatives-- that is, it will have > apparent metathesis of final -VC, e.g. Leti Berta > ~Berat- 'heavy'. But it > will also probably have something similar with > intial C, so a possible > VBrat-- initial vowel (prefix) to be determined. > But: all final C will be voiced-- I think that's > pretty much anti-universal, > no? And there will be all sorts of allophonic > changes when the metathesis > takes place, e.g. /magad/ > [maGra]. (That's getting > complicated already...) > Unlike Leti (AIUI) the "metathesis" will have > grammatical function, i.e. > perhaps, changing verbs from realis to irrealis, > etc. > > 3-vowel system, but there may be some sort of vowel > harmony, such that > /pálib/ > [pælve] or /púlid/ > [pyrri]. > Hypothetical exs. only. At one > point I had a 5-V /ieauo/ system, with the > requirement that all vowels in a > CVCV(C) base had to be high, mid, front or back; /a/ > would adjust for > front/back/round to match, but that was rather > unworkable. > > It may even be an ergative lang., though despite all > the recent discussion I > still don't get what "anti-passive" does :-(( > > The pronouns will include forms that express > subj.+obj-- I posted about > those a long time ago. > > Just a heads-up :-)))) >
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