Re: Most developed conlang
From: | Benct Philip Jonsson <conlang@...> |
Date: | Monday, April 23, 2007, 12:03 |
On 20.4.2007 Dirk Elzinga wrote:
> Two things occurred to me in watching this exchange.
> First, stevo seems to be assuming a "dual-route" model of
> morphological processing, and second, by his criterion of
> complete predictability, all of Henrik's examples count as
> processes which create new words.
>
> First, since the term 'dual-route' may not be familiar to
> all, let me explain briefly. One definition of the lexicon
> assumes that it contains only the information that is
> unpredictable (this isn't the only definition, but I'll
> use it since it seems to advantage stevo's claims);
> anything that is predictable is provided by rule. Regular
> word formation, by definition, is predictable, so words
> formed in this way will not be included in the lexicon.
> However, if the word formation process is unpredictable,
> the result of applying it to a base must be listed
> separately in the lexicon, thus creating a new word.
> Hence, 'dual-route': one route is the regular application
> of a rule of grammar creating a word "on the fly", the
> other route is accessing a word already existing in
> lexical memory.
>
> The dual-route model is not universally accepted, however.
> There are many linguists (including me) who believe that
> all morphological processing (and probably all
> phonological processing) is done on the basis of whole
> words used as analogical models or exemplars for novel
> forms (thus the "single-route" of lexical access). That
> is, we know that '-er' is a suffix because we recognize it
> on a large number of words--not because it is provided by
> a rule of grammar.
>
> Second, I can find examples of irregular or unpredictable
> usages of each of the suffixes Henrik mentions. Just to
> give one example: the suffix '-er' is used to form
> agentive nouns from verbs; thus 'runner' is "one who
> runs". But it can also be used to form nouns denoting
> instruments; thus 'blender' is "an instrument with which
> one blends". 65 years ago the word 'computer' was
> understood as an agentive noun "one who computes", and
> large companies which depended on numerical analysis hired
> many people to perform numerical calculations. Now we
> understand the word 'computer' as an instrumental noun. So
> the result of adding this suffix to a stem is not entirely
> predictable, and thus words formed by it must be listed
> separately in the lexicon.
>
> It won't do to say "Yeah, but I mean the 'productive' use
> of the suffix" without defining your criteria for
> productivity. Even then, it's not an "either-or"
> proposition; you will find word formation processes
> arrayed on a continuum from highly productive to highly
> unproductive. Dividing the continuum at *any* point will
> be arbitrary.
>
> Dirk
>
A quick googling showed that the term "dual-route" model of
morphological processing is mostly used in connexion with
learning to read. Can you point me to some sources on this
controversy. I must say that IME I use the single-route
model as a native speaker, but the dual-route model for
foreign languages :-) -- probably an artifact of having seen
derivational morphemes listed in grammars and the like.
Experience from trying to discuss morphology with my son
(now 9 y.o.) makes me come down on the side of the single-
route model as the natural one. I wonder if and how
speakers of polysynthetical languages may differ, though.
/BP
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