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Re: numbers in Tasratal: thoughts?

From:Muke Tever <alrivera@...>
Date:Saturday, November 10, 2001, 4:30
From: "Yoon Ha Lee" <yl112@...>
> I was going to create numbers as a third class of words that didn't have > this three-way derivation thing going, when it occurred to me: why do more > work than I have to? > > Hence, a new prefix: ka(l)-, for numbers: > (You interpose [l] if the word-to-be-prefixed-to begins with a vowel.) > > This is derived from a perfectly boring, humdrum triad: > > ikal [ikal]: number, quantity (definite) > ykal [i"kal]: quantity (indefinite), variable > akal [akal]: order, linear > > Where does this lead? Well, certain substantives can take on the ka(l)- > prefix and become humdrum everyday numbers. For example: > > ata [ata] has the meanings world/experience/total, but kalata [kalata] > means infinity. > ceia [tSeja] has the meanings self/past history/identity, but kaceia > [katSeja] means 1.
Would {akaceia} mean "first", then, or is that misoveranalogizing?
> The choice of *what* triads take this prefix to become numbers will be > conculturally determined, and is not otherwise predictable--so it's > something you can just memorize (and which you can memorize separately > from the actual word-meanings, though it's probably more difficult).
Is the ka[l]- prefix productive? How would kalification of the "wrong" noun lexically speaking act? Say, {karoxe}.. would that be passed off by a native as incomprehensible, as nonsensical, or would they try to make numerical sense of it? *Muke!

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