ELVES: was Elliott's people
|From:||Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>|
|Date:||Tuesday, March 25, 2003, 14:24|
Pavel Iosad <edricson@...> wrote on Tue, 25 Mar 2003 16:45:56 +0300:
> > [pre-Celtic civilization]
> In fact, that's almost what Tolkien's Elves were initially, vide _The
> Book of the Lost Tales)
Yes, I am very aware of that. In fact, my project was inspired by
the _Book of Lost Tales_ (and a fan-fiction story apparently also
inspired by it). The difference is that my Elves are plain humans,
while the Elves in the _Book of Lost Tales_ have preternatural traits.
I like the BLT very much and think that the connection JRRT drew to the
real world back then was a good idea he unfortunately dropped
(or at least did not elaborate on). I think the whole story lost quite much
when it became detached from our world to a point where it is no longer
clear that it takes place in the past, rather than in a parallel universe
not connected to our world.
An image I like to use is that of a "mythological onion". Tolkien peeled off
many later layers, such as the diminuished size of the elves and their
gossamer wings, and thus restored them to their old dignity. What I do is
to peel off even more layers, down to something that actually could have
existed in the real world.
> > [ancient Elvish grammarian]
> That would be Feanor, definitely. Or Rúmil perhaps :-)
Well, I don't take it as far as to borrow individual characters from Tolkien.
> > Overall, their culture
> > is similar to that of Tolkien's Elves, but also shows "Celtic" traits.
> Which ones?
Their decorative styles are similar to Celtic ones, such as elaborate latticeworks.
Elvish music is also very similar to what we think of as Celtic music.
> > Well, "Elves" is mainly a term of convenience I use as long
> > as I haven't found out
> > what these people call themselves. The reason why I call
> > them "Elves" is
> > the idea that the Celtic and Germanic traditions of elves are
> > a distorted memory of the old civilization in pre-Celtic Britain.
> Almost what Tolkien wrote in "Aelfwine of England" :-)) (BLT2)
Yes. Only that in my version, the "Elves" are, as I have already
pointed out, normal humans (and the island hasn't been dragged
about by a sea-god).
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