Re: Voiced ejectives (was Simafira : Phonetics)
|From:||Paul Roser <pkroser@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, September 6, 2001, 14:09|
David Peterson wrote:
> << but ejectives (glottalic egressives) may only be voiced. >>
> Uh...haven't you got that backwards? Ejectives may only bevoiceless.
> That's why all the ejectives on the standard IPA chard are voiceless
> (s', k', p', ts').
Sorry, thought "voiceless", wrote "voiced".
Nik Taylor wrote:
> Implosives actually are usually voiced. The reason is that the
> glottis is left open as it is lowered. The glottis cannot vibrate
> from air moving DOWN, and, unless it's a very narrow passage doesnot
> much impede the movement of air. So, an open glottis in an ejective
> would result in no sound, because there'd be no buildup of pressure
> in the oral cavity, and would be pointless, as it would make nosound.
Thanks, Nik - though I believe a sort of "inverse voice" is possible,
and Catford describes it as combinable with implosives (saying they
have a sort of croaking quality - something for the Frog People's