Re: Voiced ejectives (was Simafira : Phonetics)

David Peterson wrote:
> <<  but ejectives (glottalic egressives) may only be voiced. >>
>
> Uh...haven't you got that backwards?  Ejectives may only be
voiceless.
> That's why all the ejectives on the standard IPA chard are voiceless
> (s', k', p', ts').
Sorry, thought "voiceless", wrote "voiced".

Nik Taylor wrote:
> Implosives actually are usually voiced.  The reason is that the
> glottis is left open as it is lowered.  The glottis cannot vibrate
> from air moving DOWN, and, unless it's a very narrow passage does
not
> much impede the movement of air.  So, an open glottis in an ejective
> would result in no sound, because there'd be no buildup of pressure
> in the oral cavity, and would be pointless, as it would make no
sound.

Thanks, Nik - though I believe a sort of "inverse voice" is possible,
and Catford describes it as combinable with implosives (saying they
have a sort of croaking quality - something for the Frog People's
language? ;-)

regards,
Bfowol