>Various people wrote:
>
>Andrew: Is this different to the vowel shift that is effecting the Southern
> England dialect group?
>
>John: I believe so, but I don't have enough specifics to be sure.
>
>Charles: I hope not:
>
http://www.ling.upenn.edu/phono_atlas/ICSLP4.html
>
>Raymond: and I know not :)
>
>Andrew said "Is this different?" and I replied "I believe so",
>viz. "I believe it's different".
OOoops - so you did. Trouble is I read these things too early in the
morning before the first imbibition of caffeine has had its effect.
Charles and Ray say "I hope not"
>and "I know not", but their evidence is that it *is* different;
>i.e. they agree with me.
>
>Ah, the English language.
No, just our obtuseness :)
Ray.