Re: Introduction to Altaii
|From:||Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>|
|Date:||Monday, June 30, 2003, 16:55|
Quoting Roger Mills <romilly@...>:
> Andreas Johansson (on his website) wrote:
> >The diphthongs are _ei ai oy uy_. The language is quite tolerant of
> combinations-- the chief exception being that i and y cannot stand
> another vowel. Where this would occur the first vowel is lost if it
> i,y,e or a -- if it is o or u, a diphthong oy or uy results instead.>
> As I read this, the sequences /i,e,y,a/ + /i~y/ > /i y /.
> And /u,o/ + /i~y/ > /uy, oy/ (assuming that in case of /oi, ui/ you
> rounding assimilation > /oy, uy/.
> So where do _ei, ai_ come from? Something omitted here??? And doesn't
> name _Altaii_ violate this rule (or does the morpheme boundary between
> two i's block it)?
These rules apply when inflection or derivation create illegal hiatic
combinations. It does not apply to "underlaying" diphthongs, which comes in
the flavours /ei, ai, oy, uy/.
_Altaii_ is from _Altaia_ +_-i(n)_ - the final /a/ is suppressed according to
the above rule, and the _-ai-_ part, being a monophonemic "underlaying"
diphthong, is not subject to the same rule as are the phonemes /i y e a/.
> If, as I assume, ei ai derive < /e,a/ + /i~y/ (with loss of rounding in
> of /ey, ay/, then in fact the only non-permitted vowel sequences
> the two high front vowels /i y/ (??) Thus, "delete the first vowel"
> ii, yi > i, and iy yy > y. Or have I missed something?
Yep! :-) See above. I guess there's room for describing it somewhat more
clearly. And you're right you get ii, yi>i, yi, yy>y. In the Introduction,
examples of the former two are seen in the sg~pl pairs _medy_~_medi_ and
> (BTW, since the vowels /i e a u o/ are given their "classic" values,
> assuming /y/ = [high, front, rounded] -- Whatever it represents, maybe
> ought to mention that.)
Actually, it does say that _y_ is [y]. Under phonology, fourth paragraph
beneath the consonant chart: "The vowels are the classical five i e a o u,
plus y [y]".