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Re: Music-conlangs & music

From:R A Brown <ray@...>
Date:Wednesday, July 5, 2006, 17:00
James W. wrote:
> On Tue, 4 Jul 2006 20:40:33 +0100, "R A Brown" > <ray@...> said:
>>Yep - the subject line explicitly refers to 'music-conlangs'. I thought >>I had made it clear that I was referring to those conlangs that use >>whole ranges of a musical scale of some sort or other. AFAIK there are >>_no_ natlangs that do this. > > Do you mean particular modes (like Major, Minor, Dorian, Locrian, etc.)?
> Given the different 'absolute' pitch ranges of everyone's voices, esp. > between male and female, I think this would be the most effective way to > go about it--since the quality of the scale/mode can be produced on > *any* > tonic.
I agree. The 'Mercurian' language used the Major scale.
> Otherwise, you would have to deal with absolute pitch, and that > would exclude most of the population.
I agree also. I have a feeling that Solresol did deal with absolute pitch. Although the literature refers to 'do, re, me...' etc, I have a feeling that in 19th century France it meant, C, D, E.... etc. Bruce Koestner's Eaiea seems also to deal with absolute pitch, thus: {quote} Eaiea letter Musical pitch a A b A#/Bb c B d C e C#/Db f D g D#/Eb h E i F j F#/Gb k G l G#/Ab {/quote} But I am skeptical about the practicality of this for ordinary mortals.
> OTOH, if everyone in the society > had absolute pitch, (and the same vocal range...), your group of > phonemes > would be quite a bit larger, assuming a vocal range of two and a half > octaves.
This would work in a fictitious setting where we have creatures all endowed with absolute pitch; but I agree with you that most of us earthlings are not so endowed.
> -------- > James W. > The composer on the list who has no desire whatsoever to create a > musical conlang.
You wouldn't even find it just a teensy weensy bit interesting? ;) -- Ray ================================== ================================== "Ein Kopf, der auf seine eigene Kosten denkt, wird immer Eingriffe in die Sprache thun." J.G. Hamann, 1760


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