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Re: Defining "Language"

From:taliesin the storyteller <taliesin-conlang@...>
Date:Thursday, July 19, 2007, 12:22
* John Crowe said on 2007-07-19 10:38:04 +0200
> It seems that most of the suggestions fail to differentiate language from > lower level communication. For example, "means of symbolic communication" > would include road signs and such.
I agree with Andreas as to what is minimally needed for a language, namely the arbitrariness: "road sign + road sign" <-> "meaning" doesn't map to "phoneme + "phoneme" <-> "morpheme". So: road signs are not a language. As to arbitrariness: I skimmed a tragic dissertation once: the author had attempted to prove that certain sounds always imply certain meanings (for instance sl: slippery, sly, slinky etc.), generally for all languages, and had compared... you guessed it: only languages that were related. I sincerely hope he/she didn't get his/her PhD. t.

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Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>