|From:||Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>|
|Date:||Friday, July 18, 2003, 20:27|
Quoting JS Bangs <jaspax@...>:
> Ian Spackman sikyal:
> > At 23:33 17/07/03, Thomas Wierwrote:
> > >Quoting JS Bangs <jaspax@...>:
> > >
> > >[writing of weird languages:]
> > > > E.g. Georgian's consonant clusters, those three
> > > > OSV languages, Berber's syllabic stops, the "monster raving loony
> > > > language", etc.
> > >
> > >Although it should be mentioned that these Berber syllabic stops
> > >are only phonologically, not phonetically, syllabic. (Whatever it
> > >might mean to be phonetically syllabic.) There is an audible, but
> > >very short, schwa in words with them.
> > Oh, how disappointing.
> Indeed. Do you have or know of a recording, Thomas? I would like to hear
> it from myself. I had heard from a different source that the phonetic
> correlate was length, but tiny epenthetic schwas is more likely.
I have no recording, since I heard it at a phonology conference
last year from a native speaker of one variety of Berber who was
also a phonologist.
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