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Re: A'stou part II: the Noun

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 31, 2000, 14:32
At 08:51 31/05/00 -0500, you wrote:
>> >Well, have you decide for a name for each case and then tell that can also >be used in other situations. As saying Nominative case and then telling it >is also used for calling people. I guess the first case name is enough, >unless you really want your acronyms. >
It's true that the names I gave to the cases are a little too much (well, I was young at that time :))))) ), but I'm kind of attached to them now. I feel they really go well with the nature of A'stou :) .
>> >> THE DECLINATIONS: >> >> Each gender has different endings for the cases (the nominative is >> different and uses often a different form of the noun). >> >You mean that nominatives are often irregular? >
Very much indeed. The reason for it is completely unknown but it's the case. That's why you need to know the N-V and the I-E of every noun to be able to decline them correctly (except for a few other exceptions).
>> Those endings show >> the cases as well as the number (singular or plural). they are all used >> when the noun is indefinite. But when the noun is definite, the nominative >> form (singular or plural) is used with the article at the chosen case, >> >Then, there is not exactly case agreement between the noun and the article >but the article bares the case mark, except for instrumental. >
You're right of course. But at the time I was writing this post I could find a way to express myself correctly, so I ended up with this...
>> NOTE2: Names of people (like Dha'stem) are always in neuter case (Dha'stem >> is simply the N-V plural of Dha'os). >> >Is Dháos the instrumental (I-E) case? As I've see you given both nominative >and instrumental in your examples. >
No, it's the N-V case. I should've given both forms: Dha'os, Dha'stei. :)
>> >Acusative gives then a temporal feeling to the 'on', 'after', 'from' and >'theough' prepositions while shows the spacial concept... ;) >
Exactly, quite simple and straightforward in fact (there are not so many straightforward things in A'stou, so welcome them :)) ). It's even true for prepositions that have only temporal or (exclusive or) spatial meanings.
>> NOTE: it can sound strange to put 'enough' with 'too much', but the >> suffixes correspond. >> >Well, doesn't seam strange to me... ;) >
Then you must be as strange as me :)) . But thinking of it, I don't have to be surprised about that. As a conlanger, I'm not that strange (though many people who are not involved in conlanging think I'm a weirdo :))) ). Anyway, in my opinion, "enough" has really kind of a similarity with "too much", but I cannot explain precisely why... :) Well, I hope you didn't find it too boring to answer me :))) . I'll send the next mail about verb morphology tomorrow or the day after tomorrow (tomorrow is free so I think I won't be found in front of a computer, especially with the nice weather that has been forecasted :) ). Christophe Grandsire |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G. "Reality is just another point of view." homepage : http://rainbow.conlang.org (ou : http://www.bde.espci.fr/homepages/Christophe.Grandsire/index.html)