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Re: CHAT: New Member With Questions

From:Padraic Brown <pbrown@...>
Date:Friday, March 16, 2001, 14:56
On Fri, 16 Mar 2001, David Peterson wrote:

>In a message dated 3/15/01 10:34:42 PM, zsau@YAHOO.COM.AU writes: > ><< What is the difference between prepositions and particles? >And are they really prepositions in English, given that they sometimes go >after what they modify (like in 'where do you come from?')? >> > >Particles are things that aren't anything else, like "to" in the infinitive.
This has been mentioned a couple times, now. What's special about 'to' before an infinitive?
>However, prepositions are prepositions in English. For instance, in that >sentence "Where do you come from?", it should read "From where do you >come?"--we just don't talk that way much anymore. Remember how teachers >always said never to end a sentence with a preposition?
This is, of course, True, and we should _never_ do it. Mind you, teacher never said anything about ending sentences with postpositions!
>The reason that >"rule" came to be is because, way back when they were writing grammar for >students in American/British schools, they decided that since you can't end a >sentence with a preposition in Latin, you shouldn't be able to in English >(makes no sense, but, nevertheless, that's where the rule came from. They >give the same reason for not allowing split infinitives, e.g., "to boldly go >where no one has gone before" [I'm watching Voyager right now :)]).
Which, of course, is strange! How can you split "go"? ;)
>To make a little more sense, I think there are two things called >"prepositions" in English: true prepositions and locative adverbs. For >instance, the "in" in "I am in the house" is different from "I walk in the >room". The first is a true preposition, and you can't end a sentence with it
The Doctor is in. Padraic.
>-David

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