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Re: Ergative or Vocative?

From:Danny Wier <dawier@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 6, 1999, 17:02
Nik wrote:

>Danny Wier wrote: > > Nominative weat k@ul [wE:t, k@ulw] > > Oblique stem weta- k@lu- [wEta, k@lu] > > Accusative wetaam k@luam [wetam, k@luVm] > >Why is the {e} in "wetter-" pronounced [E], while in "wetted" it's [e]?
It's not; that was a typo. It should be [wEta:m] > [wEtam`] (length distinction in suffixes is generally lost; I didn't mention that in my last post). But I might change the root to _wet@_ since I just came up with the a-pharyngealization rule, and I'd have way too many pharyngeals if I replaced unknown vowels in Nostratic with <a> instead of <a">.
> > Gen. of acc. wetamaun k@lumaun [wetamaunw, k@lumaunw] > >What's "gen. of ace."?
Genitive of accusative. A case you'd find in languages like Basque (well, really genitive of absolutive or ergative); they're referred to as 'cases of cases'. (Tech case construction is a complex of internal inflections, suffixes and prepositions, and many combinations. There are 'officially' about ten cases, give or take, with a ton of locatives.)
> > So for the zero-ending, what would be more likely in a natlang -- a >vocative > > case or an ergative? > >Vocative, a unrounding ergative would be pretty unusual.
I know. So what are some examples of ergative markers? (I don't have my Georgian grammar overview handy, and I just remember Basque _-ek_ or is it _-ak_...) Danny ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at