Re: THEORY: Sound changes in literate societies

Ren John Cowan screeu:

> Ogham writing dates back to at least the 3rd century, though most
examples
> (carved in stone, literally) are 5th-6th century. It was still in
common
> use in manuscript form until the 16th century, and in the 20th and
21st
> centuries has become an important way for school children to pass
notes
> during class (though admittedly the notes are in English, not Irish,
> most of the time).
I'm curious: what exactly do you mean by "still in common use in
manuscript form until the 16th century"? I have never heard of Ogham
being used in manuscripts, nor of it being in common use so late. If you
could point me in the direction of more information about this, I'd be
grateful, as you've really got my curiosity piqued!

> I have not been able to nail down the oldest Irish writings in Latin
> script (as marginal notes in Latin manuscripts, typically), but
> certainly no later than the 6th century.
In university we were told that the earliest such piece dated to 597,
and was a lament on the death of Columcille (St. Columba), and could
likely have been composed in Iona.

> I should mention the claims of Runic, which was in steady use from
> about the 1st century to the 19th
Again, you've got me sitting straight up in my chair, John! I've never
heard of any variety of runic script being in "steady use" until the
19th century! Where did you get this information, and where can I find
out more?

Lhiats,

Thomas

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