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Re: THEORY: phonemes and Optimality Theory tutorial

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Friday, November 10, 2000, 1:07
dirk elzinga wrote:
> When I say that either [p] or [b] could be selected as the phoneme, > what I mean is that the choice of [p] or [b] isn't forced by the > theory; the theory can allow either. It's up to you whether you > consider this to be a failure or fortunate result. One the one hand, > it offers a potential explanation for sound change: some speakers > "phonemicize" [p], others [b]. Whichever group gains linguistic > dominance gets to "determine" the next generation's grammar. Under a > strict phonemicist position, this explanation for sound change is not > available, since one or the other *must* must be chosen.
I don't understand the significance of this. How is this different from phonemes? You're still considering [p] and [b] to represent the same underlying form, whether it's called /p/ or /b/ (or even /F/ or /B/) is more or less arbitrary. Isn't the underlying form exactly what a phoneme *is*? -- Dievas dave dantis; Dievas duos duonos God gave teeth; God will give bread - Lithuanian proverb ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor