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Re: USAGE: "I want crazy two years ago"

From:Michael Adams <abrigon@...>
Date:Thursday, July 13, 2006, 23:04
Well yes and no. October 31 is just a codification of the older
Samhein (Savin) festival, which was Lunar, and did not always
fit well the Solar calender of the Christians..

When missionaries came to Ireland and Britain they was often
told to convert older festivals into a Christian one.. Or a
pagan place a Christian one. Such as I believe Canterbury or
Winchester became Christian sites.. or Brigit an Irish (British
as well?) became a Saint vs a Goddess/power.

Savin was I remember the new moon closest to ... not sure .. But
it was close to what we now called Holloween. All Saints Day (1
Nov)  or All Hallows Eve (31 Oct)..

But heh, people today think Thanks Giving is for the pilgrims,
but in reality it was about giving thanks for the US
Constitution, but hard to fix food and theme for that.

Mike
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ph.D." <phil@...>
To: <CONLANG@...>
Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 10:41 AM
Subject: Re: USAGE: "I want crazy two years ago"


> Michael Adams wrote: > > > > Trick or Treat, when your dead ancestors come back > > from the world of the dead, around 15 October, they > > want something, blood and food or mischief. So to keep > > them busy, you give them treats or they take your arm > > or cattle (trick is how they take your cattle, eat them or > > just steal them). Also could be a methaphor for the Tax > > Man or just local raider or like? > > This is on October 31, the evening of All Saints Day, which > is November 1. This was once called All Hallows Day, so > the evening was called All Hallows Even, now corrupted to > Halloween. > > --Ph. D.

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