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There's always room for more (was Re: Ebb and flow (was Re: Naisek Pages Updated))

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@...>
Date:Monday, August 4, 2008, 16:08

On Mon, 4 Aug 2008 12:07:21 +0100, R A Brown wrote:

> andrew wrote: > > On Thu, 31 Jul 2008, Jörg Rhiemeier wrote: > [snip] > >> Sure. Making a romlang now is not the same as making a > >> romlang in '96 (or whenever Andrew came up with Brithenig). > >> Yet, the possibilities are not entirely exhausted, even if > >> many of the more plausible scenarii such as Britanno-Romance > >> or Germano-Romance have been taken. > >> > > But just because a scenario has been 'taken' it does not mean, surely, > that no one else can use the same scenario. Andrew has, more than once, > asked me to show what I would do with Britanno-Romance. Maybe one day I > will do this - *not* as a rival to Brithenig, which is firmly embedded > now into the Bethisad shared-world project - but as an alternative > possible development (obviously in an alternative universe both to > *here* and to Bethisad).
Sure. We are not in auxland :) There is always room for more, including things that have already been done - you can always find another, equally legitimate, way of doing it differently. For instance, I have found that Germanech was neither the only nor even the first Germano-Romance conlang, but does that lessen its artistic value? Probably not. What regards Ill Bethisad, I did indeed consider contributing Germanech to it, but I later felt otherwise, and I decided to integrate it into the framework of the League of Lost Languages, as a tiny minority in a once-Roman part of Germany, either west of the Rhine (as the FrathWiki page currently says) or south of the Danube (which I now consider more likely, considering the sound changes the language has undergone). The LLL world could as well have a Britanno-Romance language, which would not be the same as Brithenig (though it would probably be similar to it in several points). I also have a modern Continental Celtic language on the back burner, which will be very, very different from Daniel Jones' Arvorec (and is also spoken in a different location as well as in a different world - namely the LLL world again). While I think that Arvorec is a good conlang, I ask myself about it, "Why should a modern Continental Celtic language look like an Insular Celtic one?" My Continental Celtic language, as for now named "Camonic", will be not particularly similar to Insular Celtic.
> [snip] > > > My reluctance to making changes to Brithenig is that it is embedded into > > the Bethisad shared-world project. That's a lot of work, and a big > > surprise to foist on anyone! > > It is indeed, and would probably lead a 'Bethisad' schism. My own view > is that Brithenig is now truly embedded into the Bethisad project it is > better to leave it as it is. If you really want to make significant > changes to Brithenig it would, in my opinion, be better to produce a > different conlang as an _alternative_ to Brithenig - as mine would be if > I ever get around to working on it - in a different conculture to > Bethisad (for alternative histories of western Europe since the Roman > period must be truly legion! :)
Yes. It is always difficult to make major changes to the foundations of a conworld, and if it is a shared conworld, the problems are magnified because the changes affect the contributions of other people. ... brought to you by the Weeping Elf