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Re: CHAT: Maths schooling.

From:Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...>
Date:Saturday, March 24, 2001, 22:29
On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote:

> > Date: Sat, 24 Mar 2001 11:57:15 -0500 > > From: Yoon Ha Lee <yl112@...> > > > On Sat, 24 Mar 2001, Lars Henrik Mathiesen wrote: > > > > <wry g> The impression I had was that there are more female math(s) and > > science teachers--at least the places I've been--because we're the > > "washouts" who don't go on for the doctorate. But the truth is I would > > rather share what I know about math with other people and show them the > > interesting, relevant and likable parts of it, than be doing original > > math research. (Or...sorry for the American usage "math"...) I've met > > close to a hundred female math majors (at a Nebraska conference), many of > > whom *do* plan to go for the doctorate--and they're bright people and > > love the subject and want to do research and it *is* what they ought to > > do for themselves. It just isn't for me. > > Well, perhaps it's different in the US, but in Denmark maths or > science tend to be people's minor subjects at teachers' college. It > seems that for young women, 'wants to work with children' and an > interest in 'hard' subjects rarely coincide.
Hmm. I am interested in hard subjects *and* soft subjects; my second choice woudl be to teach history, though any public school would probably kick me out for not toeing the patriotic line. (After years of *not* having to recite the retarded Pledge of Allegiance at school, I was flabbergasted to see it at Shenendahoah--but then, it's a public school, so I shouldn't've been surprised.) I guess I could see that, though; there don't seem to be a whole lot of women interested in sciences/maths, period. <sigh>
> Are all middle school teachers in the US really BA's or BSc's in their > subjects? In Denmark, and I suspect most of Europe, it's only at High > School age (grades 10-12: gymnasium, Abitur, baccalaureat, A-levels) > that students are exposed to teachers with basically no pedagogical > skills.
In NY state, according to my boyfriend's mom (who's been teaching for over 20 years...!), these days you *have* to have a bachelor's in your subject and a master's in education (subfield X), or something like that. I don't know how the requirements vary by state. (All the different state laws seem feudal and confusing to me sometimes, but I supposed that's because I'm not used to it.) Oh, and certifications *do* vary by state, and seem to require stuff beyond the master's. To be a *substitute* teacher you only need a bachelor's, and to teach at private school requires no certification whatsoever. I thought about just going directly to teaching but since I have no classroom experience, only one-on-one tutoring experience, I thought it'd be useful to learn educational theory and pedagogical methods and how to design a curriculum and things like that. YHL


John Cowan <cowan@...>