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Re: Sounds in Conlangs

From:Tristan Mc Leay <conlang@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 6:00
bob thornton wrote:

>This is a question. > >How many of your conlangs have any of the "Other >Symbols" in the IPA? It seems to me that they are both >rare in natlang and conlang, exepting the [w] [W] >pair. > >Suchlike I have never seen a conlang with an [x\], >much less with anything epiglottal. > >Why is this? Are these sounds considered aesthetically unpleasant? > >
These are either co-articulations (i.e. sounds that have more than one articulator, so they're the intersection of one row and _two_ columns) or ones that don't warrant a row or column of their own, cases where only one or a few boxes would be filled if they were included in the table up top. For instance, [w] is an approximant produced simultaneously labially and velarly, hence a labio-velar approximant. I don't _really_ know why the epiglottal sounds don't live in the table up top, though. As far as I know, linguists (as a species, not as individuals) don't make aesthetic judgements in this day and age. As for me, I think [X] is a pretty unpleasant sound, and think it should be stricken from the table and relegated to a subordinate position as a footnote to the chart. -- Tristan.

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