Re: Sounds in Conlangs
From: | bob thornton <arcanesock@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, November 17, 2004, 14:01 |
--- Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...> wrote:
> bob thornton wrote:
>
> > This is a question.
> >
> > How many of your conlangs have any of the "Other
> > Symbols" in the IPA? It seems to me that they are
> both
> > rare in natlang and conlang, exepting the [w] [W]
> > pair.
>
> AFMC Sohlob has /ts\/, /dz\/ and /s\/, as well as
> [z\] as an
> allophone of /dz\/ before /d/. I'm also pretty sure
> that [l\]
> exists as an allophone of /r/ in Kedjeb (aka
> proto-Sohlob).
>
> > Suchlike I have never seen a conlang with an [x\],
>
> My natlang L1 (Swedish) supposedly has /x\/, but in
> fact [x\]
> is a minority pronunciation, albeit the one favored
> by the public
> proadcasting networks. My idiolect has [x], which
> beside [s`]
> is the majority pronuciation. Otherwise the Swedish
> "/x\/"
> phoneme has a lot of cool dialectal realizations.
> My father
> for example used [x_W] or [x_p\]! Swedish has /s\/
> too, BTW.
>
Ooo. Delightfully nifty.
> > much less with anything epiglottal.
>
> Perhaps because people prefer to endow their
> conlangs with sounds
> they can pronounce!
>
Yes, they are rather... painful.
> >
> > Why is this? Are these sounds considered
> aesthetically unpleasant?
>
> No. As Tristan said there is nothing special about
> these sounds
> except that they don't fit neatly into the main
> chart.
>
By the final question I was meaning "Why don't more
conlangs have them?", but okey.
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