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Re: Vocalic Language, take two

From:Christophe Grandsire <grandsir@...>
Date:Monday, September 20, 1999, 7:36
Nik Taylor wrote:
> > Okay, I think I've got the general structure down of my vocalic > language. > > Consonants > Stops > b d g > p t k > Nasals > m n ng > mh nh ngh > Fricatives > v z gh > f s x > Glides > w y" j ( y" = y-umlaut) > wh y"h jh > Liquids > l r > lh rh > > y-umlaut represents turned-h, that is, rounded palatal glide >
Like in French 'lui'? And are the nasals, glides and liquids followed by h unvoiced equivalents of the voiced ones ? I like that (even if I'm unable to pronounce them, at least voluntarily). y" is already very rare, I wonder if there is any natlang that has y"h. Anybody knows ?
> Vowels > Orthography Phonetic > i y u i y u > e oe o e o" o > h E > d a a A >
The front part is very crowded compared to the back part (that's not a problem, I know that it happens often). But shouldn't there be a /O/ to make a counterpart of /E/? Or does [O] already exist as an allophone of /o/? [snip]
> > Grammar > > VERBS > > Aspect > Punctual: ri- > Progressive: -- > Perfective: rid- > Habitual: jo- > Prospective: rih- > > Tense > Past: u- > Present: -- (cannot take punctual) > Future: jh- (can only take perfective or progressive) > For a "simple" future, like "I will walk", the rpesent is used with > prospective >
So when is the future tense used? [snip]
> > Class IV > Repetition: -pja > First time: -moe >
I like the 'first time' modal :) . Can you find a good 'grammatical' name for it? :)
> Class V > Begin: -ny > Stop: -eala (-yme-eala -> -ymiala, -jh-eala -> -jeala) > Resume: -rolh >
Same question for 'resume'. I like it also. [snip]
> > NOUNS > > Gender > Sentient being: d- > Supernatural phenomena: nhe- > Natural phenomena: mhoe- > Social groups, phenomena: le- > Edible Animals: ngime- > Non-edible Animals: me- > Edible Plants: ngitd- > Other: td- > > Case > Nominative: -- > Absolutive: a-
How do you use them? Is this an ergative, accusative or active language? (or something even stranger :) )
> Dat/Alienable poss: hna- > Inalienable poss: ifa- > Instrumental: yny- > Locative: ka- > > Number > Singular: -- > Dual: -no (final -y becomes -u) > Trial: -ly (final -y becomes -u) > Plural: -nai (final -y becomes -u) > It seems that there was once an -y- with these suffixes; incidentally, > the words for "two", "three", and "many" are no, ly, and nai. My theory > is that there was once a plural suffix -y to which these words were > added, and the -y was then lost, but still shows up in the y+y > transformation >
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