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Re: artlang-blindness of linguists (was ...)

From:paul-bennett <paul-bennett@...>
Date:Thursday, December 11, 2003, 14:59
On Wed, 10 Dec 2003 03:14:14 -0500 Jan van Steenbergen
<ijzeren_jan@...> wrote.

>>Fragments of languages... indeed true. Few artlang projects ever >>reach the stage of actual usability. Makes it even more difficult >>to take them seriously. > >Absolutely. Nevertheless, there are plenty of artlangs that díd reach such >stage. >OTOH, I'm not convinced that every auxlang listed in the index of the book >has reached it; I've seen examples of Latin-based auxlangs with a >vocabulary of much less than 2000.
[snip]
>>But there is a handful of artlangs which have reached a rather stable >>mode of existence. Andrew Smith's Brithenig is pretty stable; > >Yes, but isn't this stability mainly caused by the fact that Andrew >abandoned it? Besides, I don't know the size of its lexicon. Has it >reached "full usability"?
Why must lexicon size be required for "usability"? Some languages, notably American languages (that I know of, e.g. Mattole) have very small lexicons, and very many derivational operations, as well as resisting borrowings quite strongly (for example, coining "make-write-tool-cylinder" (IIRC) instead of borrowing "pencil"). They're far from unusable, and almost as for from unlearnable, although that's a debate for another day. Paul