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Re: words from Su Cheng Zhong

From:bnathyuw <bnathyuw@...>
Date:Saturday, August 17, 2002, 16:30
DAMNIT. SOMEONE TEACH THE BOY TO USE PARAGRAPHS !


--- lu su <intelligent888@...> wrote: > Even
George Bernard Shaw subconsciously aware that
> increasing sounds’ number can understand the world > better. In his Pygmalion, Higgins can distinguish > one > hundred and thirty vowel sounds, so he is smarter > than > Pickering. This technique enables Higgins to turn a > flower gird into a princess magically. But do you > ever > think? If Higgins’ one hundred and thirty vowel > sounds > instead of promoting a flower girl, he uses it in > the > transmission of message? Isn’t it what we are > looking > forward to? Since a vowel has to be pronounced with > a > certain tone, you can’t separate them. It is just > like > that you cannot separate vowel with consonant. As > every Mandarin speaker can distinguish four tones of > every vowels, so we may say that every vowel for > English speaker is four vowels for a Mandarin > speaker. > The 20 vowels of English are 80 vowels for Mandarin > speaker, and the 35 Chinese vowels are 140 vowels > for > Mandarin speaker, 10 vowels more than Higgins’. > Any way, I believe the strongest power of the human > world is reason. Once you violated reason, people > call > you nonsense, and with nonsense, a strong army can > turn to weaker, a richer person can turn to poorer. > Some anthropologist believed between the species > that > could use language (human) and that couldn’t use > language (animal), there were some species that > could > speak little language or speak a backward language. > Later they found some evidence from the discovery of > Neanderthal. > From http://www.wjh.harvard.edu/~tec/FitchWray.pdf > “For the last thirty years, fossil analysis has been > the dominant approach to the study of the evolution > of > speech. Paleoanthropologists have attempted to use > the > hominid fossil record to deduce the timing and order > of speech-related adaptations such as the descent of > the larynx and enlargement of cortical regions. This > approach was initiated by the seminal observation by > Lieberman et al. (1969) that the human vocal tract > differs from that in other primates, in having a > lowered larynx (Figure 1), a configuration that > allows > humans to make a wider variety of vowels that other > primate species. Soon afterward, Lieberman and > Crelin > (1971) used a reconstruction of the Neanderthal soft > tissue vocal tract, based on basicranial anatomy and > some comparative data, to infer that larynx position > in Neanderthals was closer to that of other primates > than of modern humans. This suggested that > Neanderthals could not make certain speech sounds > that > are typical of modern human languages. Although > those > authors never claimed that Neanderthals lacked > language entirely, the paper spurred a vigorous (and > still ongoing) debate about the speech and language > capacities of Neanderthals, and extinct hominids in > general (Falk 1975, DuBrul 1976, Arensburg et al. > 1989, 1990). A review of this literature makes clear > that there is still no general agreement about when > articulate speech came to play the crucial role that > it subserves in modern human language. This is not > surprising, because the vocal tract is largely made > up > of soft tissue that does not fossilize, and thus > there > are no obvious skeletal indicators that would > provide > unambiguous evidence for speech. Thus, despite many > years of hard work, new fossils, and creative new > approaches to analysis, the currently available > fossil > data are inconclusive.” > > In http://zolatimes.com/V2.41/dognose.html, there is > an interesting supposition: > “About 100,000 years ago we all were wandering over > the face of the earth, nibbling here and there. Some > of us, members of Homo Erectus, evolved with a > smaller, flatter face, but essentially our brain > size > was the same as our Neanderthal cousins. Although we > differed in mild respects physically, both types of > humans behaved similarly. We buried our dead, used > fire and tools, cared for the old ones and raised > kids. We hunted and gathered together on the planet > and lived side by side from 120,000 years ago till > about 30,000 years past. Then came a crucial moment > in > our evolution. Homo Sapiens survived and the > Neanderthal did not. This fact is rather curious > since > they were bigger and stronger than us, with huge > noses > and large muscles. It would seem that they had an > advantage to ensure their survival over us. So why > did > we survive and they didn’t? > The Homo Sapiens, having a smaller flatter face with > a > narrower nose subsequently lost the accurate sense > of > smell that had allowed us to smell danger. Our > olfactory bulb (nerve for smell) is the smallest > among > all human species, and when it went, about 14,000 > years ago, we were ready to gain speech. This was > due > to the fact that we could now lift our lighter heads > upward and forward giving us an advantage in seeing > our prey, and free up the voice box to reverberate > sounds. - - > Life in and around the camp adjusted to the > presence > of the wolf. But an added boon became apparent very > quickly. Since the sense of smell in humans had > reduced their ability to detect oncoming prey, the > noisy wolves sounded the alert when danger was > immanent, because they could smell for miles. This > interdependence was a cozy situation for both. Each > understood the other in an easy symbiosis. For the > wolf this was a good deal and they knew it. They > chose > us and in time man's best friend was the result. > Despite our thinking that our favorite Benji > understands the words we use, he still only > recognizes > the gestures, movements and the tonal sound of > emotion, as any one who yells at a dog will know. > They > refuse to cooperate with irrational humans.” > From the standpoint of empiricism, some one > criticise > that this conclusion is not true. They believe that > the soft tissue of Homo Sapiens and Neanderthal are > no > different. At least, no body have every seen it. But > from rationalism thinking, it is convincible. It is > the principle of evolutionist. Or we may say no > matter > it is true or not, there should be some species > between able and unable to use language. If it were > not the Neanderthal, it would be some species else, > which have not been discovered yet. > I am always wondering wether the computer will be > the > next helper of human being? It is just like the dog > (wolf) to Homo Sapiens, by their help we lost some > of > our abilities, but on the other hand we developed > some > sense. Yet maybe more carefully decoding information > that carried by sounds could be one of them also. Or > in one word, we lose or save some of the visual > ability but for an exchange, we gain a more > sensitive > auditory ability. The current human beings of the > world has found no different of speak-listen organ > among different races. Chao Yuan Ren had taught > Chinese language in America for several decades, yet > he found that only one student couldn’t utter the > tone > properly. It did not to say that he was unable to > use > the tones. For when Chao taught him the first tone > of > Mandarin, he always repeating in second tone, and > when > taught him the third tone of mandarin, he always > repeating in fourth tone. I thought that it does not > originate from articulate organ but by tradition. > The > best example is that when we teach children > alphabetic > letters, we set all the 26 letters to music, in > order > to help them to remember. > Currently, the articulate and auditory organ of > all > humankind is exactly the same, but no one dare say > that after long period evolution, with different > languages, they will still be the same. > The power of military can beat a country, the > power > of economy can weaken a country, but the power of > reason can cause geno-sui-cide. > >
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