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Re: Neanderthal and PIE

From:Herman Miller <hmiller@...>
Date:Tuesday, October 14, 2008, 1:29
Lars Finsen wrote:
> ROGER MILLS wrote: >> What if, by some freak of evolutionary development, the Neanderthal >> language was transmitted _genetically_? > > Not a bad idea. The whole thing about human language as we know it is > that it's so inherently redefinable. Let's say that these Neanderthals > never innovated that redefinability, and communicated with instinctive > signals like any monkey, except that they had evolved into a degree of > complexity approaching a real symbolic language. Theoretically the > grammatical structures of this lingo could be entirely different from > normal ones - makes my mouth go watery when I think about it. But that > isn't relevant to your context, of course.
Well, some bird songs have a good amount of complexity, so it's quite possible that a complex phonology could develop for whatever reason (e.g., as a sign of a well-developed memory and fine coordination), and over generations the different sound-sequences could acquire specific associations of meaning. Bird songs are not entirely genetic (birds raised without hearing the songs of their parents might sing an imperfect variation of their song), but they are specific enough to the species that it's possible to recognize many birds just by listening to them. So the common ancestor of Neanderthals and humans in this hypothetical world could have had a similar sort of communication system. Many kinds of birds are able to learn new songs, even adopting the songs of other birds -- the mockingbirds in North Carolina imitate North Carolina birds, while those in Texas imitate Texas birds. So the ancestors of modern humans could have been more like mockingbirds in that respect and adopted many of the Neanderthal words. It's still a stretch, but it's getting closer to the sort of thing that could be plausible for a story.

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