|From:||Roger Mills <romilly@...>|
|Date:||Thursday, December 11, 2003, 3:34|
BP Jonsson wrote:
> At 08:22 9.12.2003, Roger Mills wrote:
> >yur-: yurun + nawus 'swim' > yundrawus 'swimming pool'
> Is that nr > ndr? Each time you reveal something of
> Kash phonology there is a similarity to Sohlob
> (which I really need to get outta my head and onto
> the net!) Don't tell me you got fricativization of
> geminates too!
>(Where do Sohlob geminates come from? see below)
Sometimes the grapheme "ndr" (in Kash script the "nd" character with
subscript "r" sign) represents /n+r/, sometimes simply /nd+r/. /nd/ in
turn, in modern Kash, results from the merger of **nt and **nd, and
sometimes /d/ in loanwords. (Basically I snitched this from Fijian, where
"d" = /nd/ and "dr" = /ndr/).
No geminates in Kash, except occasionally at morpheme boundaries, when the
suffixes -sa, -to, -ka, -po, -pi, and -nu occur after final s, t, k, p, n
resp.. Supposedly too, a post-tonic vl.stop is slightly lengthened
("emphatic")-- kota ['kot(:)@] word vs. kotani [ko'tani] 'his word ~he
said', but since I often forget to do it when reading Kash, perhaps it's a
If you've been paying attention :-)), you already know that the 3d
pers.poss.sfx -ni behaves oddly after a final nasal-- any nasal +ni > -ñi:
karun 'lord, duke'
karun+mi > karumbi 'my lord'
karun+ti > karundi 'your lord'
karun+ni > karuñi 'his/her/their lord'
yomom 'foundation, basis' > yomoñi 'its/the....'
Spoken colloq. Kash is developing geminates in such cases: karum:i (but
still karundi), karun:i, yomon:i
 If I ever create a Kash relative with word-internal geminates, they will
have to originate in some strange way, since the bulk of proto-forms are
CVCV(C). ---I fell in love with geminates during my work with the South
Sulawesi languages of Indonesia where they have at least 4 sources-- 1.
automatically after *schwa, 2. nasal+vl.stop > geminate vl.stop, 3. a few
old infixed *r or *l, 4. unexplained, sometimes in "intensified" affective