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Re: Phonotactics?

From:Roger Mills <romilly@...>
Date:Thursday, December 11, 2003, 3:34
BP Jonsson wrote:

> At 08:22 9.12.2003, Roger Mills wrote: > > >yur-: yurun + nawus 'swim' > yundrawus 'swimming pool' > > Is that nr > ndr? Each time you reveal something of > Kash phonology there is a similarity to Sohlob > (which I really need to get outta my head and onto > the net!) Don't tell me you got fricativization of > geminates too! >
(Where do Sohlob geminates come from? see below[1]) Sometimes the grapheme "ndr" (in Kash script the "nd" character with subscript "r" sign) represents /n+r/, sometimes simply /nd+r/. /nd/ in turn, in modern Kash, results from the merger of **nt and **nd, and sometimes /d/ in loanwords. (Basically I snitched this from Fijian, where "d" = /nd/ and "dr" = /ndr/). No geminates in Kash, except occasionally at morpheme boundaries, when the suffixes -sa, -to, -ka, -po, -pi, and -nu occur after final s, t, k, p, n resp.. Supposedly too, a post-tonic vl.stop is slightly lengthened ("emphatic")-- kota ['kot(:)@] word vs. kotani [ko'tani] 'his word ~he said', but since I often forget to do it when reading Kash, perhaps it's a dying rule....... If you've been paying attention :-)), you already know that the 3d pers.poss.sfx -ni behaves oddly after a final nasal-- any nasal +ni > -ñi: karun 'lord, duke' karun+mi > karumbi 'my lord' karun+ti > karundi 'your lord' karun+ni > karuñi 'his/her/their lord' yomom 'foundation, basis' > yomoñi 'its/the....' Spoken colloq. Kash is developing geminates in such cases: karum:i (but still karundi), karun:i, yomon:i ------------------------- [1] If I ever create a Kash relative with word-internal geminates, they will have to originate in some strange way, since the bulk of proto-forms are CVCV(C). ---I fell in love with geminates during my work with the South Sulawesi languages of Indonesia where they have at least 4 sources-- 1. automatically after *schwa, 2. nasal+vl.stop > geminate vl.stop, 3. a few old infixed *r or *l, 4. unexplained, sometimes in "intensified" affective vocab.