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Re: inverse constructions

From:Gerald Koenig <jlk@...>
Date:Saturday, November 6, 1999, 7:40
>From: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...> >Subject: Re: inverse constructions >Gerald Koenig wrote: >> The verb and its 3 arguments total 4 elements forming the basic >> grammatical structure of a full sentence. Just as we have 2 dimensional >> structures, such as writing, we can have 2 dimensional languages, as >> attested by Nick, but they are not fully formed. They seem suited to a >> "flatland" of fiction, not a relativistic universe. It would be >> interesting to know the cultures they thrived in, and what was >> hierachical structure there. They seem less suited to describe a three >> dimensional world. > >Hunh? I'm sorry, but I don't think that this is a valid analogy. A lot >of language have no cases, does that make them "zero dimensional"? >Besides, those languages that only have two or no (one?) cases simply >use word order and/or adpositions to compensate for it. For instance, >consider the English sentence "John gave the boy the gift" - word order >distinguishes between "nominative", "accusative", and "dative" - dative >can also be distinguished by the preposition "to" as in "John gave the >gift TO the boy" >
Hi, Nik, I think I misunderstood your first post. I thought you had said that there were languages with less than 3 case-roles, as opposed to less than 3 grammatical forms to represent case-roles with. I was thinking only of the actual functions that arguments to verbs have, not the forms that they take in various languages. Sorry for the confusion, this was a new idea and not well formulated. Jerry
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