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Re: THEORY: Tepa prosody [was: Estonian Quantity]

From:Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
Date:Monday, November 12, 2001, 20:00
Hey.

I'd like to thank And for the follow-up questions on Tepa prosody.
Considering the recent discussion of X-SAMPA and transcription
standards, I've come up with a compromise solution for CONLANG
discussions of Tepa. Underlying forms in Tepa are given in my
transcription scheme (which is intended to be a Romanization of Tepa)
and the phonetic transcription will be given in X-SAMPA, as far as I
can stomach it.

At 8:16 PM +0000 11/11/01, And Rosta wrote:
>What role does the syllable node play? Is it simply there to >host onsets in representations, or are some phonological >phenomena sensitive to syllables? Apparently so -- e,g, the >rule for unbound phase.
I think that the rule for unbound phase could be recast to refer specifically to the rime, in which case the syllable wouldn't necessarily play a role other than to host onsets. However I'm used to thinking in terms of syllables (and morae), so I described the prosodic phenomena accordingly.
> > Insuring that a CV string is exhaustively parsed into licit feet >> requires several kinds of adjustment: 1) suffixation of _-ka_ (this >> is morphologically restricted), 2) final-vowel lengthening, 3) >> light-syllable adjunction. > >Is (1) a variety of (3)?
No. Suffixation of _-ka_ only occurs in connection with the prosody of unbound phase, where light syllable adjunction is not confined to a particular morphophonological environment. In standard generative phonological terms, _-ka_ suffixation is a lexical rule, while light syllable adjunction is a postlexical rule. There are stems which mark unbounded phase by suffixation alone. For example: /kenki/ [k1Ngi:] 'cliff:BOUND' /kenkika/ [k1NgiGa] 'cliff:UNBOUND' /tampa/ [tamba:] 'potato:BOUND' /tampaka/ [tambaGa] 'potato:UNBOUND' /qeppi/ [N1ppi:] 'mosquito:BOUND' /qeppika/ [N1ppika] 'mosquito:UNBOUND' In each case, the final long vowel of the bound forms is dictated by the requirements of exhaustive footing ([CVXCV] is not a legal foot). In the unbound forms, bound phase is marked solely by the suffix; while the forms happen to have a heavy initial syllable, it doesn't uniquely identify unbound phase since the bound phase forms also have an initial heavy syllable.
> > In Early Tepa, bound phase was marked by a final long vowel. In >> Modern Tepa, unbound phase is marked by an initial heavy syllable >> (moraic trochee). > >"Early" and "Modern" in the extrafictional history? Or in the >internally-reconstructed intrafictional history?
Extrafictional. I couldn't think of another concise expression to use to indicate the distinction between the earliest version of Tepa and my current conception. Perhaps I should use 'Tepa 1996' and 'current Tepa' to avoid potential ambiguity ...
> > tukana 'thrush:BOUND' > >= [tuGa naa] (2 feet) or [tuGana] (1 foot)?
Either. It's probable that the second variant is more common.
> > tukkana 'thrush:UNBOUND' > >= [tuk kana] (2 feet) > >> pite 'see:BOUND' > >[piDe] (1 foot) > >> pitteka 'see:UNBOUND' > >[pit teGa] (2 feet) > >Are the geminates phonetically long? Or are they normal-length >segments that resist lenition due to being ambisyllabic?
The geminates are phonetically long. There are intervocalic singleton voiceless stops which occur between foot boundaries, so there is a genuine length distinction in voiceless stops. (Hmmm. Is this really true? Do singletons and geminates occur in the same environment? I think so, but I'm not sure right now.)
> > As far as I can tell, both realizations are in free variation. > >It's very satisfying to see Tepa evolving, and to see its soul, >its tepanicity, evolving. There is something about the [hiBit1:] >~ [hiBiD1] alternation that feels to me in my guts deeply Right.
I agree (of course). This was an inadvertent result of toying with possible footing procedures and it immediately appealed to me as being a good thing to keep.
>OTOH, my guts haven't quite apprehended the gemination pattern. >/hitte/ feels like an augmented foot, which is right, but /hittete/ >would be two feet, and it feels to me like a kind of stress clash >between adjacent syllables, and I feel I want to parse it as >necessarily containing augmented foot /hitte/.
/hitte/ is not a legal foot. The augmented foot is only possible with three light syllables, but I don't have a good reason for that right now. The stress clash is resolved by destressing the second of two adjacent stressed syllables (I'm using the apostrophe to indicate a following stressed syllable): 'hit'tete -> 'hittete ["hitt1D1]
>We ought to have some collective space at conlang.org or suchlike, >a default place for assembling conlang materials and links.
That would be a good thing, and I would be happy to make Tepa materials available there. For the time being, I'm going to find a free hosting service; several have been recommended to me. Of course, this will all have to wait until I can finish the description of phonology and morphology (at least!). Dirk -- Dirk Elzinga Dirk_Elzinga@byu.edu "Speech is human, silence is divine, yet also brutish and dead; therefore we must learn both arts." - Thomas Carlyle