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Re: CHAT: A flat minor (was: ATTN: Pablo Flores (VIRUS WARNING))

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 23, 2002, 19:15
John Cowan wrote:
> >Andreas Johansson scripsit: > > > |v|=[f] is of course perfectly regular in German, tho' |v|=[v] is a not > > uncommon irregularity. > >My mother the native speaker and _Germanist_ told me that "v" was >pronounced /v/ in non-native words such as "November" and "van Beethoven" >(LvB was born in Bonn, but the family was from South Brabant).
Checking another encyclopedia, it does say [v]. Possibly the [f] in the other one reflects a spelling-induced germanification rather than an outright error. I take it Brabantish has [v] for written |v| - "van" is rendered as [fan] in this neck of the woods, at least. As a side note, rendering |v| as [v] initially and medially in reasonably obvious loans, and [f] elsewhere should get you right most of the time. Andreas _________________________________________________________________ Internet access plans that fit your lifestyle -- join MSN. http://resourcecenter.msn.com/access/plans/default.asp

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