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Re: Too bizarre?

From:Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 12, 2003, 18:59
On Wednesday, November 12, 2003, at 12:47 AM, Estel Telcontar wrote:

> Ray Brown ha tera a > [snip] > >> I'm not sure how I'd handle 3-consonant lexical morphemes at present. > > One possibility might be... > Say you have 3 syllables ABC, > Let the consonants A and B determine the vowels of the first two > syllables, and let the vowels B and C determine the vowel of the final > syllable... > > Or, something like: > Let consonants A and B determine the first vowel, B and C determine the > second vowel, and consonants A and C determine the last vowel
That second idea is really exotic :) I've played around with something like your first suggestion. But we have the problem of vowel harmony. As I've said, for many years now in all the transmogrifications of 'briefscript' / BrSc etc. one thing has remained constant: the single consonant morphemes are suffixes or clitics whose vocalization is determined by vowel harmony, i.e. by the lexical morpheme to which they are attached. In fact, even the final vowel of the lexical morphemes have been do determined. The most obvious thing to do with three-consonant words would be to have first vowel determined by A & B, and the second in a similar way by B & C. This would give such results as (without the final vowel): 1 bgz {p00k00s} /pOkOs-/ back vowel harmony 2 pgz {p10k00s} /pukOs-/ back vowel harmony 3 bkz {p01k10s} /pEkus-/ harmony?? 4 pkz {p11k10s} /pikus-/ harmony?? 5 bgs {p00k01s} /pOkEs-/ harmony?? 6 pgs {p10k01s} /pukEs-/ harmony?? 7 bks {p01k11s} /pEkis-/ front vowel harmony 8 pks {p11k11s} /pikis-/ front vowel harmony Now, if we abandon the notion of vowel harmony, we are left with the problem of how to vocalize single consonant morphemes. It will be noticed in the above that the middle consonant is being used twice: in the AB combo it determines whether the first vowel i front or back; in the BC combo it determines whether the second vowel is high or low. As front/back contrast is important for vowel harmony, maybe the middle consonant should determine the front/back position of _both_ vowels, i.e. the 'bits' are read backwards in the BC combo. (I wouldn't explain the vocalization in terms of binary digits - it's just what set off the present train of thought). That would give us 3 /pEkEs-/ 4 /pikEs-/ 5 /pOkus-/ 6 /pukus-/ This also has another elegance. There are not 8, but 16 possible combos of p-k-s if the language has 4 vowels; but there are only 8 possible arrangements of b/p + g/k + z/s! If, however, vowel harmony is enforced, there are only 8 permissible combos of p-k-s and the modification suggested maps all 8 arrangements of b/p + g/k + z/s to these eight. In this solution we would have: - the height of the first syllable determined by first vowel; - the vowel harmony of all syllables is determined by second vowel; - the height of the second and, of course, third syllable is determined by the third consonant As vowel harmony affects not only the vowels of the lexical morpheme but also all suffixes/enclitcs, I wonder whether the first rather than the second consonant should determine this; this would mean the second consonant determined the height of vowels in first & second syllables, and all subsequent consonants would determine vowel height only. Another problem is stress/pitch accentuation and segregation of morphemes. But I think that does not directly affect the way of using a purely consonantal script might also determine the vocalization. A final thought (for now): A consonantal script should mean that BrScB is using the Roman letters as an abjad; but the vocalization of abjads is surely shown by diacritics. that consonant symbols can indicate vocalization suggests an abugida. But what i'm suggesting doesn't seem to fit either catgory properly :) Ray =============================================== http://home.freeuk.com/ray.brown ray.brown@freeuk.com (home) raymond.brown@kingston-college.ac.uk (work) ===============================================