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Re: THEORY: 'true' nature of nouns vs. 'illusionary' nature

From:Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...>
Date:Wednesday, April 14, 2004, 18:56
The problem is the range. If the modality applies to
just one concept, you can add it as an affix to the
term. But what if the modality applies to a word group
? In algebra, you would use parentheses. If you want
to use parentheses in oral speech, you need an oral
correspondance to them. For ex:

John threw (a stone into the window, I believe)

Suppose opening and closing parentheses would be
pronounced as "parop" and "parclo". It would give:

John threw parop a stone into the window parclo
mybelief

(You could also try using tones).

And what if imbricated parentheses ?

Also the modality could apply to an atomic conceptual
part of a concept. For ex, "cock" contains 2 atomic
concepts: the kind of bird + "male". What if you
wanted to say "I see a cock, or maybe a hen" (but
anyway, this kind of bird, be it male or female) ?

This is not only about modality, but also about
negation, or intensity, for ex.

All probably possible in a computerized language, but
hardly in an everyday one.

--- Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Hi! > > Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> writes: > > This rejoins my concern about the range of a > modality. > > > > John threw a stone into the window. (no modality) > > > >...interesting stuff removed... > > > > etc. > > > > So in theory we could come to something like: > > (John-MOD threw-MOD a_stone-MOD into-MOD > > the-window_MOD)-MOD > > > > or maybe even worse, if more complex nuances :-) > > > > This is a problem, and I have no real solution > yet. > > I'm considering. > > My new S7 will allow/force you to add evidence/mood > particles to each > and every sub-clause. Predicates that have valence > 0 do not enforce > you to add such a particle to the predication they > build, but I'm > considering allowing it anyway if the speaker wants > to. Any > predication that consists of a predicate and one or > more arguments > currently forces the speaker to use such a particle. > > The first sentence above is impossible to express in > S7, since it is a > complex predication therefore requiring a > evidence/mood particle. > > Another extension I will probably borrow from > Inuit-Aleut, which S7 is > influenced by, will be the -something-like suffix. > This is additional > to the evidence/mood thingies. > > **Henrik
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