Re: THEORY: 'true' nature of nouns vs. 'illusionary' nature
From: | Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, April 14, 2004, 18:56 |
The problem is the range. If the modality applies to
just one concept, you can add it as an affix to the
term. But what if the modality applies to a word group
? In algebra, you would use parentheses. If you want
to use parentheses in oral speech, you need an oral
correspondance to them. For ex:
John threw (a stone into the window, I believe)
Suppose opening and closing parentheses would be
pronounced as "parop" and "parclo". It would give:
John threw parop a stone into the window parclo
mybelief
(You could also try using tones).
And what if imbricated parentheses ?
Also the modality could apply to an atomic conceptual
part of a concept. For ex, "cock" contains 2 atomic
concepts: the kind of bird + "male". What if you
wanted to say "I see a cock, or maybe a hen" (but
anyway, this kind of bird, be it male or female) ?
This is not only about modality, but also about
negation, or intensity, for ex.
All probably possible in a computerized language, but
hardly in an everyday one.
--- Henrik Theiling <theiling@...> wrote:
> Hi!
>
> Philippe Caquant <herodote92@...> writes:
> > This rejoins my concern about the range of a
> modality.
> >
> > John threw a stone into the window. (no modality)
> >
> >...interesting stuff removed...
> >
> > etc.
> >
> > So in theory we could come to something like:
> > (John-MOD threw-MOD a_stone-MOD into-MOD
> > the-window_MOD)-MOD
> >
> > or maybe even worse, if more complex nuances :-)
> >
> > This is a problem, and I have no real solution
> yet.
> > I'm considering.
>
> My new S7 will allow/force you to add evidence/mood
> particles to each
> and every sub-clause. Predicates that have valence
> 0 do not enforce
> you to add such a particle to the predication they
> build, but I'm
> considering allowing it anyway if the speaker wants
> to. Any
> predication that consists of a predicate and one or
> more arguments
> currently forces the speaker to use such a particle.
>
> The first sentence above is impossible to express in
> S7, since it is a
> complex predication therefore requiring a
> evidence/mood particle.
>
> Another extension I will probably borrow from
> Inuit-Aleut, which S7 is
> influenced by, will be the -something-like suffix.
> This is additional
> to the evidence/mood thingies.
>
> **Henrik
=====
Philippe Caquant
"High thoughts must have high language." (Aristophanes, Frogs)
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