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Re: OT: Reduplication enquiry

From:Steven Williams <feurieaux@...>
Date:Wednesday, September 10, 2003, 1:29
Japanese has some interesting reduplication patterns
to indicate a limited set of nouns in the plural.

The only example I can think of off-hand is
'hitobito', 'people', for 'hito', 'person'. Note the
shift of [h] to [b]. The Japanese use of reduplication
is extremely limited, as far as I can tell, and used
only with nouns to indicate a plural when a plural is
absolutely necessary, but nevertheless, it's
fascinating.

Any Japanese speakers willing to back me up?

I also had reduplication for nouns in my conlang, cci
an tain [cCi.n=.d&in], where the first syllable of the
word would be prefixed and the stem would 'weaken'.
The reduplication created a variant on the word, like
the German prefix 'ge-' on nouns.

Anyways, the examples:

marat [ma.'rQt] 'sailors'
mauearat [ma.'va.rQt] 'crew'

nta [n=.da] 'child'
nanta [nan.da] 'descendants'

ari [?a.re] 'mountain peak'
accari [ak.ka.re] 'mountain range'

Generally, like Japanese, the nouns that reduplicate
are a relatively closed class.

But I don't suppose you can do a paper on a conlang,
can you?

--- Pavel Iosad <edricson@...> wrote:
> Hello, > > I'm in the process of choosing what to do as my year > paper, and a nice > topic has cropped up, offered by my tutor with whom > I did the Tundra > Nenets fieldwork. He suggests I treat on formal > (phonological, > morphological rather than semantic) aspects of > reduplication in any > language (in an Optimality Theory or similar > framework), so I need a > relatively well-described language with some nice > reduplicaions (not of > the Indonesian type, I mean, rather of the Latin, > but hopefully more > complex). Does anyone know what languages have nice, > devilishly complex > :-) reduplications, and preferably have them nicely > described? Also > remember I'm in Russia, so if a book is newer than > 1996 or thereabouts, > it's in all probability not in our libraries... :-( > > Thank you, folks. > > Pavel > -- > Pavel Iosad pavel_iosad@mail.ru > > Nid byd, byd heb wybodaeth > --Welsh saying
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