Re: THEORY: Non-Content/Auxiliary verbs (was: Re: THEORY: Temporal Auxiliaries ...)
|From:||Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>|
|Date:||Monday, July 11, 2005, 3:52|
On Wed, 6 Jul 2005 13:25:02 +0200, Carsten Becker
>I hope I'm not too late and you already answered this question
not really. BTW, I probably should mention that I've been "under the
weather" in more than one way ....
>From: "Jeffrey Jones" <jsjonesmiami@...>
>Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 9:05 PM
>Subject: Re: THEORY: Temporal Auxiliaries, Aspectual
>Auxiliaries, Modal Auxiliaries
> > In a couple of my conlang projects, I have a marker that
> > makes any content verb into an auxiliary (if it makes
> > sense). I don't know if I'll have any non-content
> > auxiliaries. This mechanism handles tense and mood
> > auxiliaries, evidentials and attitudinals, and some other
> > stuff, but not aspectual auxiliaries, which are handled
> > using the compounding mechanism.
>Could you please elaborate on that? It's because I'm
>currently thinking about whether to start
If you mean the compounding mechanism, I made a completely incomprehensible
(i.e. not even Henrik could understand it) post about it at
(Note: That monstrosity of an URL is what I got from copying the browser's
address field. Some of it seems to be unnecessary.)
If you mean the auxiliary part, how about:
3E-(see)-1X Ani.(dog) -- I see a dog (or dogs; I haven't worked on number
Aux-(see)-1X Ani.(dog) 3A-(run) -- I see the dog running.
3E- 3rd person explicit
3A- 3rd person definite animate
Aux- makes the argument refer to a situation instead of an entity
I don't have enough good examples yet, especially where tense, mood and
aspect are centrally involved.
> a) a completely new conlang project from scratch
> -> Grammatical features not sure yet, I'd like to
> try on an ergative/split-whatever and isolating
> language, though.
> b) try to tweak Ayeri to make it look like e.g. Sanskrit,
> or more like Indonesian, i.e. starting to derive
> daughter languges
> -> Active language? Inflecting!
> -> Ayeri is already Austronesian inspried, but its
> sound went into a direction I did not want it to go
> actually. So back to the roots!
> c) invent a good many strange sound changes to
> "reconstruct" Proto-South-West-Kataytanian in order to
> make a different language that is related to Ayeri
> like e.g. Russian (or even better, Farsi) is to
> English in order to try out some of Tom Chappell's
> nice thoughts about languages that have e.g. the
> indirect object marked for Ergative (Erg. indirect?)
>or whether to stick to Ayeri and stop producing any grammar
>for the near future.
I think (c) would be best, if possible, and (a) would be good. Failing
that, (d). In other words, I think Ayeri is pretty good as it is.
>You see, that's why I'm collecting information about anything
>that seems interesting at the moment.
>Edatamanon le matahanarà ea Bahis Venena, 5 Iran B18 ea
>15:06:10:1B ena Curan Tertanyan Cuperin.
glad that Noimi seems interesting.