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A BrSc a? & Nyuu Romaji

From:J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...>
Date:Friday, April 19, 2002, 20:42
In a message dated 4/19/02 12.01.23 PM, ray.brown@FREEUK.COM writes:

>Although /@/ occurs much more frequently than /1/, it is still absent from >very many languages, including some widely spoken ones such as Spanish. > Is this scheme acceptable in an IAL?
Schwa buffering is a great phonotactic ;) IMHO. /@/ can be allowed to quite flexible. Schwa can be said to be any central vowel sound - ranging from /@/ and /8/ to /3/ or even (my fav's) /3:`/ or /3:(r)/. Other vowels maybe permitted to "pass for" /@/: - the short /a/ of North Indian languages (a la the 1st vowel in _Punjabi_ /pan.dZa:bi:/) - the infamous /a:/ in African-American "Ebonics" (a la _killa_ or _killah_ / for "killer" /kIl.L@r/) When it comes to difficult consonant clusters, ferinstanz, schwa buffering seems to be useful for 2nd language learners... even native and semi-native speakers can be heard using schwa-ing when it comes to difficult sounds - not just consonant clusters. IMO, any contemporary IAL that doesn't take schwa (and variations thereof) seriously is being _way_ too prescriptive and ignoring documented L2 learning patterns and strategies. In a message dated 4/18/02 11.57.22 PM, writes:
>En réponse à
>Funny, some words in New Romaji look like representations of Ebonics I've >seen :)) (like the use of A to mark vocalic R in non-rhotic dialects :)) >. I suppose brother and sister become BRODHA and SISTA :)) ). > >You should share it with the list. It probably would interest some reformists >there :)) .
A Description of the "New Romaji" (NR) Spelling System for English NEW ROMAJI (50 Simple and Combined Sounds, Represented by 25 Roman Alphabet Letters) 25 Vowel Sounds 25 Consonant Sounds A E I O U AA AE II OO UU AI AU EI OU OI AIR AUR EIR OUR OIR AR ER IR OR UR P B F V M T D TH DH N S Z SH ZH R K G C J Q <---- /N/ which is odd What's wrong with 'ng'????? H W L Y /j/ YU <----- /ju:/ NEW ROMAJI (EXAMPLE WORDS: Simple Vowels / Diphthongs / R-Combinations) Simple SAN sun SEND send SIN sin SONIT sonnet SUT soot SHAANT shan't SAEND sand SIIN seen SOON sawn SUUN soon SAIN sign SAUNA sauna SEIN seine <---- LOL SOUN sown SOI soy SAIR sire SAUR sour SEIR sayer SOUR sower SOIR sawyer STAR star STER stair SIR seer SOR sore SYUR sewer The Short "o" of British Received Pronunciation is represented by O; however, in certain North American dialects, this is pronounced as a Broad "ah", and so TO "sonnet" (shown above) may optionally be represent by SAANIT. Such words as TO "often", which are also pronounced with a Short "o" in Received Pronunciation, are pronounced in some North American dialects with an "awe" sound, so that TO "often" may regularly be represented by OFIN, but optionally represented by OOFIN, as well. The Broad "ah" of British Received Pronunciation, as well as of various other dialects, is represented by AA, and so TO "shan't" is regularly represented by SHAANT (above). However, in certain North American dialects it is pronounced with an "ae" sound, and may optionally be represented by SHAENT. Other words, such as TO "alms", do NOT have exceptional North American pronunciations, so TO "alms" may generally be represented by AAMZ. Vocalic "r" is indicated by R, so TO "ruler" and "earth" are represented by RUULR and RTH. In "r"-less dialects of English, A and AA may be used in place of (unstressed and stressed, respectively) vocalic "r", so TO "ruler" and "earth" may optionally be represented by RUULA and AATH. Likewise, A may be used in place of vocalic "r" in combination with one or more vowels, so that TO "star" and "sire" may optionally be represented by STAA and SAIA. The only exceptions involve simple r-combination words such as TO "order", which may regularly be represented by ORDR. However, in "r"-less dialects, TO "order" should optionally be represented by OODA (instead of OADA). Thus, in cases involving -OR-, R is replaced by O, rather than by A. Hanuman Zhang {HANoomaan JAHng} /'hanuma~n dZahN/ ~§~ Sometimes the difference between noise and music is all in your head "I like the fact that listen is an anagram of silent." ~ Alfred Brendel _NADA BRAHMA_= < from Sanskrit > "sound is god[head]"/"god[head] is sound" anavriti shabdat => "Liberation by sound." OM ... Om Tat Sat... Tat Tvam Asi... OM


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