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Re: semantic roles

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Date:Saturday, June 19, 1999, 7:27
(back from 2 weeks off. i can't read all the mails and picked that one=20
randomly.)=20

Dans un courrier dat=E9 du 16/06/99 07:14:29, Nik Taylor a =E9crit :

> I'd just like to share some verb types from Watakassi', tendencies in > case assignment: > =20 > "Normal" > Agent: Ergative > Patient/subject[of intransitive verb]: Absolutive > =20 > Experiencer-subject (sensory/emotion verbs) > Experiencer: Ergative > Object: Absolutive > Indicates control by experiencer > Experiencer-Object > Experiencer: Dative > Object: Absolutive > Experiencer has little or no control > These can both be used with the same verb, for instance: > Flassi'tas naDtya'nal pikatu' (Saw John-erg stone =3D John looked at > the stone) > Flassi'tas naDtya'naz pikatu' (Saw John-dat stone =3D John saw the > stone) > Experiencer-Equal > Experiencer: Absolutive > Object: Commitative > Most common with "state" verbs, like "love" > Mental Action I > Person: Absolutive > Object: Dative > Common with certain emotions > Mental Action II > Person: Ergative > Object: Absolutive > Most common with rational mental actions > Mental Action III > Person: Dative > Object: Absolutive > Suggest that the person is affected by the mental action > Learn and study are indicated by the same verb, _pyasu'n_, in the sense > "learn", MA-II is used, while MA-I is used for "study" > Believe and have faith are also the same verb, _tya'iya_, MA-II is used > of "believe", while MA-III is used for "have faith in"
i was very glad to read this because i have pondered the same issue for a=20 long time. i can see we solved it in different ways but still i know i'm not=20 the only one :-) mathias