Re: thanks and name

Siyo!
Kayasanoda could mean either "human speech" or "human
song".  "Kaya" means "human", and "sano" means both
"speech" and "song".  The ambiguity is entirely
intentional.

My little infant Kropja gets its name from its three
"parents"--Croatian, Polish, and Yiddish.

Still in the womb is a language with half a
name--Beddel.  Whenever I'm speaking nonsense in this
language or am figuring out how the different types of
words work, "beddel" always comes back to me as the
prototypical noun.  So I will have "beddel" mean
"folk"--I think of this as a peasant's language, and
will attach it to the word for "tongue".

Dana
Clint


--- Aidan Grey <grey@...> wrote:
>    Just a quick note to say (in front of everyone!):
>
>    Thanks A LOT to Peter Clark and Dirk Elzinga
> (BTW, I'm a fan of Tepa)
> for helping me hammer our phonology for my new lang,
> which is named
> Taalannin. Pronounced /'tO.l@n.nIn/
>
>    Fun derivational notes on the name:
>
>    Taalannin < tal 'tree' + 'ra 'speak' + -en 'agent
> nominal, -er' + -in
> 'stative verb/adjectival suffix'
>     Which is used nominatively to mean something
> like "that of the
> Tree-speakers".
>
>    The 'r' of ra assimilates to the l of tal.
>    The 'aa' arises from vocalisation of the l in tal
> due to heavy syllable
> rules. Heavy syllables are open syllables (except in
> monosyllables), so
> closing liquids and n cause compensatory
> lengthening, which then develops
> into a new vowel. /al/ > /a:/ > aa /O/. Other
> closing consonants have
> different effects. A closing m, for instance, would
> be vocalized to a u,
> and cause a diphthong to develop.
>    The 'e' of -en elides after a vowel.
>    The 'n' of -en doubles to close a previous light
> (unstressed) syllable.
>
>    I want to add that for about 15 minutes I thought
> it would end up as
> Taalassin, which terrified me because of it's
> similarity to Talossan. Then
> I realized I was trying to use the verbal noun of ra
> 'speak' (which is ras
> /ra:s/), which would mean 'of the tree-speech'. I'm
> not entirely happy
> about that initial T - I was trying to break away
> from the conlang tendency
> for langs to start with t. Actually, it could
> change, once I get feedback
> from my future users, to Vaelennin, vil 'sacred
> tree' + all the rest as
> above. But then I'd have that other common
> name-initial, /v/. Actually,
> since I'm just kind of chatting here and people
> probably have stopped
> reading by now, I still need to figure out how I get
> that 'ae'. I think
> it's just an orthographic weirdness which was
> devised by the
> transliterating scholar Har Sceilien. I think it
> develops something like this:
>
>     /il/ > /i:/ >/ej/ but written ae to indicate an
> original vowel of the
> frontish variety.
>
>    How do you folks name your languages, and what do
> they mean?
>
>    Aidan

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