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Re: The Romanized Orthography of My Conlang

From:R. Nierse <rnierse@...>
Date:Monday, October 11, 1999, 11:51
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> Van: Thomas R. Wier <artabanos@...> > Aan: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...> > Onderwerp: Re: The Romanized Orthography of My Conlang > Datum: maandag 11 oktober 1999 13:12 > > "R. Nierse" wrote: > > > Hi Austin, > > > > I read your mail with interest. > > As did I. :) > > > > > First, language sounds tend to be organized in groups. That is, > > > > when a language has one sound in one type of category (say, > > > > voiceless stops, consonants that completely stop the airflow and > > > > where the vocal chords aren't vibrating at the same time), it will > > > > tend to have all or most of the other sounds in that category. So, > > > > if your language has /t/ and /k/, it's more likely to have a /p/
too.
> > > > But that in itself is not the clincher: you could just say that
your
> > > > language doesn't have labial sounds (like /p/); though rare, two > > > > languages I'm studying in class now, Atkan Aleut and Onandaga, > > > > both lack labial consonants (more or less). The thing is, though, > > > > your phonology here also has an /f/, a labial fricative (a sound
which
> > > > allows "frication" or rustling of the air), and so if you're going
to
> > > > say your language lacks labial consonants, you'll need to be > > > > consistent about it. > > > > I don't agree. As you stated, there are languages that lack bilabial > > consonants *and* are inconsistent. Take Cherokee. No /p/ or /b/, but
there
> > is /m/. > > Right. And Aleut has an /m/, too, but no /p/ and /b/. What I meant > to say was that these are just tendencies; of course individual
languages
> may have incompletely filled categories. But note that I did say
"...when
> a language has one sound in one type of category... it will tend to have > all or most of the other sounds in that category."
That's true
> If it was not clear that > I intended that tone for the entirety of the critique, I apologize. > > Also, in case it wasn't clear, I didn't mean any personal criticism of > Austin's conlang -- I was just approaching it from a more holistic > linguistic perspective, speaking of how languages work in general. > Sorry if I caused any offense. >
Did I souns so harsh? Apologies on my side then.