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Change and Sense Markers in rtemmu (was Re: Re: conlang greetings page)

From:Dan Sulani <dnsulani@...>
Date:Tuesday, December 4, 2001, 16:34
On 3 Dec, Yoon Ha Lee wrote:


> :-) I've always liked your "rate of change" markers
Thanks! I do too. They are responsible for a lot of the subtleties of the lang. For example, in my previous post, I decided to use the subjective-fast change for "suprise". Using "ni", the subjective too-fast-to-follow marker, could also indicate suprise, but of a more explosive, shocking kind. There is no suprise in "nu", the subjective too-slow-to-notice marker, which might have overtones of being bored to tears, but happily so. Or maybe a happy stupor. One could also go objective: "fis" instead of "ne", this would indicate the observable "lighting-up" of a person such as an excitable little kid who has suddenly realized that the present he/she has received is exactly what they have been dreaming of for a long time. (happens to adults too, sometimes! ;-) ) Going with objective "sif" instead of subjective "ni", might refer to the super-quick "play of emotions" across a person's face that, if you are not trained to observe them and not expecting them, you'd probably miss. And so on. Adding in acceleration and deceleration markers, differential change markers, not to mention the possibility of _combining_ rate-of-change markers, can make for some interesting possibilities. Some day when I find the time, I'd like to pick a process-word or two and systematically go through all the permutations to see what I can come up with. Should be fun! :-) A note about the directional marker "fo": It doesn't have to go before the rate-of-change marker; it can also go before the process-word. The decision is one of emphsis: fone yyaigiha = "ne-type" change is coming at the speaker and it is visual and happy; ne foyyaigiha = visual happiness is coming at the speaker, warp-factor "ne"! ;-)
> > BTW, re: "va'i fone yyaigiha!" > > > > va'i = emotion marker > > fo = towards (in this case, the speaker) > > ne = "yyaigiha" is subjectively changing rapidly > > (as in "suprise" :-) ) > > ygiha = the process of happiness > > -yai- = infix indicating relation to vision; > > thus "yyaigiha" = visually induced happiness > > Neat! "yyaigiha" is an especially great construction. <admiration>
Thanks. rtemmu has infixes for each of the senses: -yai- sight -lor- hearing -fuf- smell -go`g~- taste ( o` = [O]; g~ = [N] ) -tuhn- touch not to mention the general multi-sensory: -klif-. There is also an indicator for internal sensation (that arising from within the body). And of course, since I use _in_fixes to represent _external_ senses, being my perverse self, I use a _circum_fix to represent _internal_ senses! :-P Seriously! It is : p-...-ai. For example: pygihaai (p-ygiha-ai) might refer to the happy feelings coming from digesting a very nice meal. Of course, the sensory affixes can be combined: "pyyaigihaai" might refer to happy visual halucinations while "pylorgihaai" might refer to happy auditory halucinations, etc. (We won't go into adding the rate-of-change markers --- let's keep this circus to one ring, please! ;-) ) Dan Sulani --------------------------------------------------- likehsna rtem zuv tikuhnuh auag inuvuz vaka'a. A word is an awesome thing.