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Re: REAL newb question

From:Tristan <zsau@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 30, 2002, 11:30
On Tue, 2002-04-30 at 20:51, BP Jonsson wrote:
> At 18:41 2002-04-30 +1000, Tristan wrote: > > > >you'd represent the NZer's pronunciation > >as [gIt] or [get] or something (it's about in between the two, I think). > > It's [g@t], according to my literature.
Well, let's get into another of those Christ.-versus-Christ.* threads then, shall we? ;) I've heard it, I know it's not [g@t]! ;) You're probably mixing up /E/ and /I/. Kiwis have basically done the Great Vowel Shift onto the short front vowels, moving them all up. [I], being the highest lax vowel that English likes,** was moved to [@]. So we basically have /I/ = [@] /E/ = [I]ish /{/ = [E]ish I say 'ish' because it's not quite. Ut sounds weird, but uf I use my /I/ end /E/ to mumuck a New Zillender, ut sounds prutty uthintuc. Of course, before [ks], the schwa sounds more [E]-like to your average Australian schoolboy. But basically, putting 'six', 'New Zealander' and 'sheep' in the same sentence has rather interesting connotations... (The other common lets-bag-Kiwis thing is, of course, their pronunciation of 'fush 'n' chups'... errr... 'fish 'n' chips'.) *No reference to the Christ intended; it was just so that I couldn't be accused of being biassed towards one or the or the other. **Ignoring any dialect of English that might have a higher lax vowel Tristan