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Re: question - Turco-Japanese (a thought experiment for the group here)

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Saturday, November 27, 2004, 5:49
Ray wrote:
> > (Armenian has long been associated with Caucasian languages, > > I think there can be no real doubt that Armenian is of IE origin - but it > has clearly been influenced and indeed appears to have been subject to > Iranian influence in early times.
I realized after I wrote that that it could be misleading, and it appears I have mislead. What I meant was that Armenian has been in the Caucasus for such a long time that it has acquired a number of features from its neighbors, particularly lexical items. I did not mean to suggest that Armenian was not an IE language! ;( -sigh-
> The language is thought to be connected with the Thraco-Phrygian IE > languages. The Georgian name for the Armenians is 'Samekhi' where _Sa-_ is > a prefix;
It's actually <Somekhi>. Sa- is indeed affixual (as in _Sa-kartvel-o_ 'Georgia'), but I rather doubt that So- here is felt to be separate. (Wish I were in Chicago with my Georgian grammars; then I could check it now.) One piece of evidence to that end is that <Somekhi> is one of those words that ablauts with suffixation: <Som(e)kh- 'Armenian' + -eti 'country of' = _Somkheti_ 'Armenia'.
> it is thought by some that -mekhi is derived from the name which > appears in cuneiform records as 'Muski' - a people who reached the upper > Euphrates at the beginning of 12th cent BCE.
Do you have a citation on that? This vaguely sounds like one of the crazy things that Diakonoff was wont to say occasionally. ========================================================================= Thomas Wier "I find it useful to meet my subjects personally, Dept. of Linguistics because our secret police don't get it right University of Chicago half the time." -- octogenarian Sheikh Zayed of 1010 E. 59th Street Abu Dhabi, to a French reporter. Chicago, IL 60637


Ray Brown <ray.brown@...>Armenian (was: question - Turco-Japanese)