Re: Ventricular phonation

Thank you, Ray. I know that at least one form of diplophonic voice is a kind of
"husky" voice quality sometimes found in body-builders. Apparently, this is
brought on by abnormal enlargement of the ventricular folds due to heavy
lifting. I also know they are sometimes involved as helping features in creaky
and harsh voice phonations where they help dampen the true folds. All this
implies to me that they can produce sounds on their own, but i've never heard a
description of such sounds. I've also seen the phrase "ventricular phonation"
in voice pathology articles (a google search should pull up all sorts of
stuff), but never seen a good description of what that is. A conlang that I've
been working on for the last three years makes extensive use of laryngeal,
aryetenoid and pharyngeal articulations, and i'm hoping to find out more about
the role of the false folds in sound production.
                                                         Travis

Ray Brown <ray.brown@...> wrote:
On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 12:26 , william drewery wrote:

> Is ventricular phonation the same as creaky-voice? If not, just what is
> it? and is it possible to produce a distinct fricative using the
> ventricular folds?
Apparently not. "Creaky-voice" is produced by a very slow vibration of
only one end of the _vocal cords_; such sounds are also called
'laryngealized'.

Ventricular phonation is produced, as you say, between the ventricular
bands, otherwise known as "false vocal folds", which lie above and are
parallel with the true vocal cords. They are, apparently, not normally
used in speech but, according to David Crystal, ventricular effects are
sometimes combined with glottal voice to produce 'double' or 'diplophonic
voice'.

As to whether you can produce a distinct fricative using the ventricular
bands, I do not know.
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On Friday, March 25, 2005, at 12:34 , Steven Williams wrote:

[snip]
> Ventricular folds? I'm imagining a language whose
> speakers are constantly spurting blood everywhere,
Not those ventricles! :)

Ray.
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