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Palatals (was: Phonetic question...)

From:Y.Penzev <isaacp@...>
Date:Monday, March 25, 2002, 9:16
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Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 9:47 PM

> (skipped)
> (a distinction between [n_j] and [J] for instance).
> ... Polish seems to > have undergone at least three rounds of palatalisation and not all the > resulting sounds have merged. It seems there are grammatical "soft/hard" > alternations that involve affricates that are no longer phonetically > palatal, plus palatals, plus consonants that seem to have palatalised > allophones in appropriate environments ...
The same is 100% true about Ukrainian... My wife manages to distinguish between /sik/ "juice" and /s'ik/ "(he) lashed" (BTW, both are written {sik}). I can hear the difference but neither can reproduce it, nor can represent it with IPA/X-SAMPA clearly. It looks like some consonants and vowels mutually effect one on another, so it may be smth like [sIk] and [s_jik] -- I wish I knew. The difference is present only in a very careful speech.
> Keith Mylchreest
Yitzik ~~~~~~~~~~~~~