Re: David qua David

On Thu, 19 Apr 2001 19:15:40 EDT, David Peterson <DigitalScream@...>
wrote:

>    I came up with what I think is a really neat-o, nifty sound system that
>lead to some other nifty, neat-o things today for a language I'm calling
>zidaen (ae=a in "cat".  I alway forget how you guys do that one).  Anyway,
>here she is:
Okay, those are long lists of soundz :) Sorry that I don't have time to
make an extensive commentary, but I hope a few words are better than
nothing :)

>Consonants: [B] (voiced, bilabial fricative), [b], [m], [p], [F] (unvoiced
>bil. fric.), [z], [d], [n], [t], [s], [G] (voiced, velar fric.), [g], [N],
Just wanted to point out that SAMPA has [P] for the unvoiced bil. fric.;
[F] is a labio-dental nasal (remember, picky = helpful :).

>Dative: The first vowel goes to [ae], and if it's [ae], it goes to [u]:
And yes, the [ae] you're referring to is transcribed [{] in SAMPA, but also
[&] by some, and [æ] by those of us who happen to have it on the keyboard :)

>[B]>[b]     [z]>[d]     [G]>[g]     [m]>[b]     [j]>[n]
>[b]>[p]     [d]>[t]     [g]>[k]     [n]>[d]     [w]>[m]
>[p]>[F]     [t]>[s]     [k]>[x]     [N]>[g]     [r]>[N]
>[F]>[?]     [s]>[?]     [x]>[?]     [h]>[?]     [?]>[h]
>    So, as you'll see, there's a sort of prestige system going here, like
>suits in cards (with trumps, of course).
Okay, that's quite interesting. And original, too :) Quick comments: why
[j]>[n]? Is that meant to be a palatal nasal ([J] in SAMPA)? On the same
note, why [r]>[N], and not [r]>[n]? I'm sure you don't mean to have changes
in place-of-articulation, only manner, right? Finally, I'm not quite
following the last one: [?]>[h]; isn't [?] the lowest one? Upgrading?

Nice work! :)

Óskar