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Re: David qua David

From:Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...>
Date:Friday, April 20, 2001, 9:26
D Tse wrote:
> > > > In a message dated 4/20/01 12:10:25 AM, and_yo@HOTMAIL.COM writes: > > > > << Since the vowel I have in "bird" etc is a plain old schwa, I > > assume you've > > got something different? Retroflex schwa [@`] ? [R] is a > > consonant in SAMPA >> > > > > Well, I just don't know SAMPA. The vowel I'm thinking of is the >schwa > > with the hook on the end. Is that retroflex schwa? Anyway, to > > someone who speaks California English, do you have an adequate >description > > for the vowel I'm talking about? > > > > -David > > > >That's a schwa with r-colouration or a "rhotacised schwa" I think.
Hm, "rhotic" or "rhotacized" are AFAICT they same as "retroflexive" in this context. The former are probably more common in descriptions of English vowels, so I should probably used that ... The IPA sign is an up-side-down e with a kind of hook, so we're probably thinking of the same sound at least. Andreas _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com.