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Re: OT: Anthroponymics

From:Carsten Becker <naranoieati@...>
Date:Wednesday, October 19, 2005, 9:56
On Mon, 17 Oct 2005, 20:01 CEST, Tom H. Chappell wrote

> Gatewood is a famous example of a person who had no > personal name.
When did he live? Reminds me a bit of the Doctor in the Startrek: Voyager series.
> it is not Harry S. Truman, it is just Harry S Truman, > because the S does not stand for anything.
There's an episode of The Simpsons where Homer finds out that the "J" in his name stands for nothing.
> Less frequently, all of a person's "personal names" might > be merely "initials", as for instance the soldier J B > Jones.
That'd not be possible here I think.
> Royalty (of which America doesn't have any) can get along > without any family name
The last name of the prince of this county (Waldeck) is just _von Waldeck_.
> There was a person named Baxter Wilson Grant; upon hearing > of him, one person said "How many people is that?"
Forrest Gump, anyone? Americans seem to be more liberal with first names than other Western countries.
> Americans usually go by the first name; but not always. > Stephen Grover Cleveland went by Grover.
My mother's name is Brita Becker (yes, with one <t> only) and it's habit to answer the telephone with one's last name. Once, a colleague from the US thought "Becker" would be my mother's *first* name because in anglophone countries, it's habit to address people by their first name. Not so in the German speaking area. In Switzerland and Austria, AFAIK, it's even habit to address people by their degree. My father, when he worked in Basel for two years, was for example frequently addressed as "Herr Ingenieur" (Mr Engineer) instead of "Herr Becker" he told me. As Jörg said, when you've got several first names, you can choose by which one you want to go. For example, Friedrich Schiller was actually Johann Christoph Friedrich von Schiller. One curious thing is that a cousin of my fathers' was born Rainer Böttcher but calls himself Rainer W(alter) Böttcher in honour of his father Walter Böttcher whom he never got to know. Another curious fact is that especially in Catholic regions, men usually have Maria as a second first name: E.g. the full name of my godmother's husband is Michael Maria Lamsfuhs, their son is called Lucas Maria Lamsfuhs. Since nobody has mentioned that yet: I've read that in Iceland, it's still habit that children have a first name and have as a second name their father's or mother's name plus -son/-dóttir. People do not have an actual family name thus. The members of my family would be called Ingolf Friedrichsson [Ilsesson] Brita Johannsdóttir [Gertrudsdóttir] Carsten Ingolfsson [Britasson] Philipp Christoph Ingolfsson [Britasson] Simone Ingolfsdóttir [Britasdóttir] accordingly. I'd prefer Ingolfsson. BTW, how were Irish and Scottish women called if "O'" and "Mac" mean "son of"? OBConlang: Are there special naming patterns in your conlangs? My Ayeri people go by happily with [family name] [first name(s)]. Yours, First name(s): Carsten Family name: Becker -- "Miranayam cepauarà naranoaris." (Calvin nay Hobbes) Current projects: www.beckerscarsten.de/?conlang=ayeri www.beckerscarsten.de/?conlang=tarsyanian

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