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English /T/, was Re: Spanish ll in different dialects

From:Doug Dee <amateurlinguist@...>
Date:Saturday, August 28, 2004, 14:39
In a message dated 8/28/2004 10:04:49 AM Eastern Daylight Time,
joe@WANTAGE.COM writes:
Benct Philip Jonsson wrote:

>> Ben Poplawski wrote: >> >>> Maybe it was a personal variation: a lisp. It was weird, sounded halfway >>> between [T] and [f] sometimes. >>> >>> Ben >> >> Probably because it was interdental rather than post-dental. >> (Tongue between the teeth rather than behind the upper teeth.
>But...English [T] is interdental. Don't you mean the other way round?
IIRC . . . When I was in college, one of my linguistics professors (William Labov), mentioned that for most speakers of American English, the /T/ phoneme is generally not pronounced as an interdental -- the tongue doesn't actually protrude between the teeth. (He mentioned that most black Americans do have an interdental.) This seems to be a case where the traditional description hasn't caught up to drifts in pronunciation. Doug


Joe <joe@...>