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bilabial vs. labiodental (Was: Re: another silly phonology question)

From:H. S. Teoh <hsteoh@...>
Date:Thursday, November 30, 2000, 2:00
On Wed, Nov 29, 2000 at 07:21:57PM -0600, Eric Christopherson wrote:
> Is that labial version of /T/ actually [f]? I've been unable to firmly > identify it from what little exposure I've had to it from TV, but it kind of > seems to me that it's somehow different from [f]. Maybe a coarticulation or > something...
It's definitely not [f]. It's [F] (phi in IPA). [f] is a labiodental, which means you put your lower lip against your upper teeth; [F] is bilabial, which means you put your lips together (no teeth involved). I know 'cos my conlang has [F] but not [f] :-) T -- MAS = Mana Ada Sistem?